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Old 03-24-2007, 11:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 3d-X400, a sweet machine!

My first good electric heli was a Shogun 400, and I have tried most varieties and many upgrades. What I have to say after getting my first 3d-X400 is that this thing rocks! I have an Evoflight 7gram HH gyro and an Align 25 amp esc, plus I switched motors to the Park 400 4200kv 8t. The motor switch really only gave me a little better efficiency, maybe 10%, but the included outrunner had better acceleration. I may switch back. I'm flying 1320 packs with my timer set at 4:30, and discharging them less than 1/2. I now have night blades and LEDs on it so it's rigged for night operation. If you are a believer in the Shogun platform, this is a winner. The only real mod I did was installing Align blade grips, feathering shaft, spacers and O rings which fit perfectly in the rotor head. This took out the slop and eliminated a wobble that I had on the first flights. The blade grips are "upside-down" because the Shogun has the pitch arm on the leading edge. I made custom "dog bones" for the pitch links by screwing a T-rex 4.75mm link on to one end because the 3d-X400 has 4.5mm ball links. Flying weight is 601 grams.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I just picked up another one this week...
I really like these helis...

DOH! on the main gears :p
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Old 03-31-2007, 11:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I also thought the Shogun main shaft was the same, but found out the hard way that it's 95mm and the 3d-X400 takes a 99mm shaft. Fortunately my neighbor flies a Shogun V2 and bought all 3 shafts from me. Jeff (Xmseller) has some on order. I asked him if the manufacturer is still making parts for these and he said yes, and that he has many parts on order. My 3d-X400 one way bearing locked up after a few flights so I installed a new Shogun gear and one way bearing, very smooth
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Old 04-01-2007, 08:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've been flying mine with the S3107 servos from futaba, but I'm not sure if I like em'

My original 3dx400se had towerpro sg90 servos in it which IMHO are MUCH better! I did get in a new brand of servos that I might test in this heli or my mx450xs....

all in all this is a very stable platform I might also try a shorter fly bar to speed up the cyclic a little
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have HS-55s on the cyclic, a JR DS285 on the tail, and an HS-56 on the collective. I am 100% happy with this "servo cocktail" because I wanted ball bearing precision on the collective, digital response on the tail, and light but strong on the cyclic.
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Old 04-02-2007, 01:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I just put on an 8T pinion and me likes


the current at 90% is only 10A :p

I had to (still) tweak my throttle curve because of the vibration in the tail at higher headspeed. On the bottom it is only 75% but I bring it up to 90% and this cured the vibes..
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I just put on an 8T pinion and me likes


the current at 90% is only 10A :p

I had to (still) tweak my throttle curve because of the vibration in the tail at higher headspeed. On the bottom it is only 75% but I bring it up to 90% and this cured the vibes..
Me jealous!!! 10-12amps at hover and 18 max. I have the blue outrunner that came with my kit.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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that's what I'm running the 8T pinion is what keeps the amps in check
I did have to grind a notch in the shaft to keep the pinion from slipping
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, Darkside, looks like we're the only two in this whole forum! There have been 119 views, though, so hopefully some people are getting useful information from it!!
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
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haha...

the shogun is kind of a dead airframe... :p
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Old 04-06-2007, 09:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Got main shafts! They cost a lot, over $20 for two because of the Euro conversion. Hopefully they'll last til Xmseller restocks. It's www.microhelico.com that has them. He confirmed that it's a 100mm main shaft. I've ordered from him before with good results. I think he's an Asian importer in France.
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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ewe that's a little rich for my blood :p

I actually have one spare so hopefully I won't dork the heli...but I actually have it up for sale so I'm not flying it anyway :p ...
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:14 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Clear4takeoff, I have a bid on your "sweet machine" on Ebay, Let's hope your Trex project goes as well!
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