Can I use a spartan quark instead of the included gyro with the 3g?

[Flexis]

Without tail to cyclic correction your FBL system has to constantly correct the swash when your are doing FFF in order to keep it pointing the same way. The system is basically steering a car on a bendy circuit looking out of the back window...only knowing it needs to correct when its starting to go off center.
Now with piro compensation the gyro knows what's coming up and can correct instantly and effortlessly just going with the flow. It only needs to correct some bumps along the way.

A flybar basically does the same due to the gyroscopic effect, it naturally maintains the same angle of attack even if the helicopter is spinning.

On big difference is in the tail of V-stabi you also get pitch and cyclic to tail correction.
Which allows your tail to have a little peak through the front window as well.

So basically proper flybarless without piro optimizing is very hard to do as the gyro's need to do 3 times as much work. The only advantage is in the none piro stuff and offcoarse power and efficienty.

I wonder why no one has built in better torque comp in our transmitters.
Coming to think about it, we all have torque comp for rate gyro's in them.
So what it you could program your transmitter to give just a tiny nudge of rudder everytime you pump the collective. And then take it away instantly, should work

[JustPlaneChris]

Originally Posted by MrMel

Let me guess, you level the heli just before you piro, i.e. its not at an angle?

Usually yes, I'm in straight FFF, but not always. Like I said, I can't tell that the FFF piro behavior is any different now than it was with a flybar.

What I take exception with is this quote:

Originally Posted by MrMel

You dont get it, with Flybar you dont need piro compensation since the Flybar will keep the heli in line, i.e. Flybar is the same as FBL with piro compensation.

So without it, it will fly WORSE then a Flybar setup, Just fly FFF and start to Piro with the Align 3G, it will go into Wall of death by it self.

In my experience (and others I know who fly 2-axis FBL units) that simply doesn't happen. Perhaps it has happened to you? I don't know, but I wanted to provide a counterpoint from the other side of the story.

[MrMel]

Well, probably "always an exception to any rule"

I tried it with SK360, GB and by turning Piro opt off on the VBar, and it made a quite alot difference on my machines.

But I would venture a guess it depends on the setup, blades, servos, throw, agility, all affects in terms of how much you see, and how fast you fly, wind etc.

[JustPlaneChris]

Point taken, and as they say over here "Your mileage may vary"