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03-05-2014, 08:40 AM | #61 (permalink) | |
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It happened to me once doing bench testing and my skookum reported lost signal as well as the DS-16, but I had my failsafe disabled at the time. Would limiting the number of channels out over PPM to less than 8 still produce these results?
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03-06-2014, 05:46 AM | #62 (permalink) |
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Great work in finding this. I always set failsafe on the throttle to -100 and Collective to midpoint so even though I have been running 50Hz on my Tx with the Vbar, Brain/Ikon and Skookum I have, I haven't seen the issue. I have only had a static issue with one of my heli's and shortening the PPM cable fixed that pretty quickly.
To be safe I will configure my Tx to 100Hz now. //Dennis.
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03-08-2014, 09:18 PM | #63 (permalink) |
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Well...I have chickened out and installed Futaba on my Goblin Speed I am maidening tomorrow...gonna fly it with 14SG at least until UDI update is available. Really wanted the Telemetry for the Speed...but at least can get info from the KOSMIK logging.
I am going to start rebuilding the 770 tomorrow also...and will put the Jeti back in one more time...have changed tranmitter to 100hz...so hoping for the best... |
03-09-2014, 11:15 AM | #64 (permalink) |
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More great flights with my turbine yesterday and no worries here.
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03-09-2014, 11:23 AM | #65 (permalink) |
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I have had some problem free flights also. I did see one error in the log on the Protos 700, but it was right at the end of the flight when I would have been turning power off. From what I read about the error it is OK to see them every now and then, but it isn't something you should have multiple of in my new flight. Looks like CDbane my have solved the problem
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03-10-2014, 11:10 AM | #66 (permalink) |
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Anyone see errors with PPM and VBAR?
Maybe I'm dense, but what's the harm in leaving the RX on and also having the vBar FS set up?
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03-10-2014, 12:00 PM | #67 (permalink) |
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No harm really, as long as you realize that any programming of the vbar failsafe won't get used since, in the case of signal loss, the receiver fail safe settings will override those in the vbar. I had carefully adjusted the vbar failsafe setup and hadn't looked at the receiver failsafe settings.
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03-10-2014, 01:08 PM | #68 (permalink) | |
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That's how I run mine with the BD.
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03-15-2014, 08:30 AM | #69 (permalink) |
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Anyone see errors with PPM and VBAR?
Ok... That's what I thought. I've been running both. I also have my throttle connected directly to my receiver so, in the event the vBar goes batshit crazy, I can shut off the motor (and vice versa). I know, chances are nil to none, but WTH... it was available. Of course, this is on the Futaba right now... still waiting for UDI before I plug up the Jeti.
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03-15-2014, 12:17 PM | #70 (permalink) |
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Anyone see errors with PPM and VBAR?
Why wait?
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03-15-2014, 06:20 PM | #71 (permalink) |
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No kidding.
Today I was flying my helis including my TDR and Banshee and I've been really cranking the Banshee up lately. If I was worried about this issue I wouldn't put either of those in the air and especially as far out as I was flying them. They were both rock solid today as were all my other helis.
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03-16-2014, 04:11 PM | #72 (permalink) |
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I was a bit concerned myself too. After a year with no issues at all and a few thousand flights on my machines. I never had an issue until recently with my G780. Almost similar to what Greg experienced and i was certainly very concerned since the 770 size machine is no fun to crash. In my case I noticed the heli motor running while swash go to neutral and level. I had way to many errors for the signal in the log.
I experimented on the bench and for some time with hover flights only. Looks like changing my parameters a bit as recommended helped my machine. I had good demo flights at our home field event this weekend. So I am happy for now. Funny as it is. It only happened so far on my G770. That is a bit odd to me and hard to explain. Greg also had his happen on his G770.
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03-16-2014, 08:09 PM | #73 (permalink) |
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I don't have the errors on my G770, but had failsafe setup even though I am on 50hz.
//Dennis.
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03-17-2014, 12:06 AM | #74 (permalink) |
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Anyone see errors with PPM and VBAR?
So, I went to install a new R3 in my Diabolo helicopter this evening (have to admit, I'm nervous about it since Futaba has been flawless) and ran into something that stopped the project cold. It appears the circuit board is loosely tossed into the plastic case. The antennae can slide in and out and side-to-side significantly, the servo pins move around, and I can hear the board rattle around with the slightest shake. Is this the standard R3 construction? Seems like it would be hell on the electronics in a high vibe environment like a helicopter or a large gasser in concert with a central box (thank your favorite deity there are two R3s in that application?). Anyway... Futaba is staying in the heli until i find a way to ensure vibrations aren't being amplified in the receiver case.
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03-17-2014, 06:55 AM | #75 (permalink) | |
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I wonder if they used the Rsat2 board (modified for the R3) since it is a touch smaller than the R3?
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03-17-2014, 07:28 AM | #76 (permalink) |
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I've got R3's on my Protos 500, Logo 550SX, and TDR.
I just checked them all and I don't have the play you described. I can just barely move the antenna wires in the R3 on my Protos, but not the other two.
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03-17-2014, 09:38 AM | #77 (permalink) |
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Anyone see errors with PPM and VBAR?
I wonder if yours are being supported by the servo plugs. I've got 2 more R3s I'll open tonight to check out.
It seems to me that the board should not be supported by the servo plugs and antennae wires.
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03-17-2014, 01:46 PM | #78 (permalink) |
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I have two that I have not installed as of yet...you can move the board around a little bit inside the case? I am not convinced that is an issue tho...I am not too overly worried about the little bit of movement myself. Don't think it will be subjected to any more or any less vibration than if glued or tightly fitting in the case.
Hell...I am just happy they put it in a case rather than heat shrink! The ones that are just covered with heat shrink make the receivers look "Cheap" in my eyes! LOL |
03-17-2014, 03:06 PM | #79 (permalink) |
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Anyone see errors with PPM and VBAR?
At least a shrink wrapped receiver secured with some gyro tape is somewhat protected from vibes. In this case, when the plastic vibrates it'll turn the receiver board into the filling in a Maraca.
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03-17-2014, 04:19 PM | #80 (permalink) |
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Interesting. All my R7 receivers have no movement at all. Have to have a look at the R3 receivers.
For installation I prefer the plastic cases - seems to be cleaner to get those installed. But overall does not matter. Nevertheless - cool thing was that the 770 did run without issues. Might have to look up the log this weekend to double check (just ran out of time last weekend after the demo flights since I had to catch a flight up north again). Also interesting as it is. The 770 was so far the only heli where I had the issue. And I only had the issue this year ( have it in the machine since I received my Jeti). Maybe just bad constellation of the moon to sun and earth or whatsoever. ( just kidding)
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