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leex70 · 11-15-2012, 04:23 PM

I opened the (not sealed) package and got a blueline Vbar instead of silver... is that correct??

dahld · 11-15-2012, 04:38 PM

Both Mikado's web site and ReadyHeli's site list CURRENT combos as having the Silverline. BUT...when the 800 first came out, the combos had Bluelines, as the Silver line wasn't in the market at that time.

You may have an older kit, or...if the kit looks like it had been opened and gone through, someone along the line might have pulled a fast one.

(-: Dave

leex70 · 11-15-2012, 04:48 PM

I did mail to mikado and asked what to do..

If someone did a swap i am toast, isnt it so that these vbars are especially programmed for the xxtreme?

jtjohn1 · 11-15-2012, 05:50 PM

Your not toast (So don't worry about that) You would just have to email Mikado with the V-Bar serial number and they would authorize it for the XXtreme upgrades.

dahld · 11-15-2012, 07:14 PM

Besides, Kyle has yet to upgrade to an "XXtreme" V-Bar. Still using the standard stuff on the 700 and 800. The special versions are kind-of icing on the cake, but the standard stuff flies really well as is

.

Why not upgrade after all this time. Kyle is so happy with how his machines fly, that he doesn't want to change a thing. Or...just too lazy. Not sure which

.

(-: Dave

taosgraveyard · 11-15-2012, 10:39 PM

Mine was blue, and in the setup program I found it was running xxtreme version of the firmware.

I bought mine last June,

leex70 · 11-16-2012, 01:38 AM

Thanks guys, at first i decided to not open the bag. Tonight i will hook it up and see what firmware is in there.

As for the build, should i just follow the manual or do you reccomend Reading specific articles here or at milado's first?

I still have to dig in and have all winter so :-)

Jotto · 11-16-2012, 01:55 AM

Where did you order from? Some shops are still selling the old blueline version

leex70 · 11-16-2012, 02:08 AM

If nothing else changed i do not have a problem with a blueline vbar.
Is there anything else which is different from the older combo's
I bought it from aerobertics belgium, he had one in stock..

Corvette & Copter Guy · 11-16-2012, 05:37 AM

Mine had the blue and I bought mine at IRCHA this year.

Laughingstill · 11-16-2012, 11:58 AM

Mine was the first production kit in the US....it has a Blueline and it has been flawless

jtjohn1 · 11-16-2012, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leex70

If nothing else changed i do not have a problem with a blueline vbar.
Is there anything else which is different from the older combo's
I bought it from aerobertics belgium, he had one in stock..

The only change between silver and blue is the sensor (The sensor is more vibration resistant and arguably a little more precise)

If it bothers you you can probably just buy the silver line sensor and be done with it.

leex70 · 11-16-2012, 06:06 PM

i t wont bother i guess.
Should i pay extra attention to something, like something one of you guys forgot ?

How about this governor soft start issue? is that really bad? But that would be something to ask somewhere else right?

Fabe1202 · 11-17-2012, 03:10 PM

You can update your v-bar to the newer version. The soft start is then better. On the update screen, there's a special xxtreme version for you if you have the xxtreme v-bar.

leex70 · 11-17-2012, 03:12 PM

Thanx for that tip, i just did actually! I really hope it wont spin 180 degrees the first time spooling up....
I hooked up the vbar and it was an xxtreme version, did the upgrade and all went well. the only wires were two sats, the sensor and usb. super, did bind it allready ;-)

Laughingstill · 11-17-2012, 09:01 PM

The soft start issue has nothing to do with the VBAR, It was in the ESC and the newest software versions fixed that

I just got mine back and it has that software as well as the 16s upgrade and it is a BLAST!!!!

taosgraveyard · 11-17-2012, 09:17 PM

I have the newest and I still have a small kick

I just pre-spin the blades

Also, have your blade holder bolts pretty tight, or even the small kick might tip over the Heli when the blades folds in response to the small kick.

It's easy smaller than it was though, it used to be pretty big,

faxxe · 11-18-2012, 12:38 AM

Is the number of the version written on the ESC?

-faxxe

taosgraveyard · 11-18-2012, 07:31 AM

There has only been two versions of the ESC so far

Early allows using progcarx to set ESC values. Later one, some if not all of the ESC parameters are locked and cannot be changed using the program card

There is an update for both, sent it back to mikado and they will fix the problem with the ESC failing to spool up. If yours won't spool, it needs to go back

The ones that won't spool will usually spool up if you shut down throttle, wait a minute and try again. Mine does this sometimes, I have not sent it back yet.

Requires a hardware tweak and perhaps software too, I don't know.

I don't know but it's possible they are shipping this fix with the latest

See the xxtreme forum at vstabi.info for details. You need to register to get into this forum. See the yellow sheet that came with the Heli for details on registering

11-15-2012, 04:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
leex70 Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2011	Just got my xxtreme 800 But..... I opened the (not sealed) package and got a blueline Vbar instead of silver... is that correct??

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11-15-2012, 04:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
dahld Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2007	Both Mikado's web site and ReadyHeli's site list CURRENT combos as having the Silverline. BUT...when the 800 first came out, the combos had Bluelines, as the Silver line wasn't in the market at that time. You may have an older kit, or...if the kit looks like it had been opened and gone through, someone along the line might have pulled a fast one. (-: Dave

11-15-2012, 04:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
leex70 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2011	I did mail to mikado and asked what to do.. If someone did a swap i am toast, isnt it so that these vbars are especially programmed for the xxtreme?

11-15-2012, 07:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
dahld Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2007	Besides, Kyle has yet to upgrade to an "XXtreme" V-Bar. Still using the standard stuff on the 700 and 800. The special versions are kind-of icing on the cake, but the standard stuff flies really well as is . Why not upgrade after all this time. Kyle is so happy with how his machines fly, that he doesn't want to change a thing. Or...just too lazy. Not sure which . (-: Dave

11-15-2012, 10:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
taosgraveyard Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2010	Mine was blue, and in the setup program I found it was running xxtreme version of the firmware. I bought mine last June,

11-16-2012, 01:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
leex70 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2011	Thanks guys, at first i decided to not open the bag. Tonight i will hook it up and see what firmware is in there. As for the build, should i just follow the manual or do you reccomend Reading specific articles here or at milado's first? I still have to dig in and have all winter so :-)

11-16-2012, 01:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jotto Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2007	Where did you order from? Some shops are still selling the old blueline version

11-16-2012, 02:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
leex70 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2011	If nothing else changed i do not have a problem with a blueline vbar. Is there anything else which is different from the older combo's I bought it from aerobertics belgium, he had one in stock..

11-16-2012, 11:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
Laughingstill Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006	Mine was the first production kit in the US....it has a Blueline and it has been flawless

11-16-2012, 06:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
leex70 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2011	i t wont bother i guess. Should i pay extra attention to something, like something one of you guys forgot ? How about this governor soft start issue? is that really bad? But that would be something to ask somewhere else right?

11-17-2012, 03:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
Fabe1202 Registered Users Join Date: May 2012	You can update your v-bar to the newer version. The soft start is then better. On the update screen, there's a special xxtreme version for you if you have the xxtreme v-bar.

11-17-2012, 03:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
leex70 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2011	Thanx for that tip, i just did actually! I really hope it wont spin 180 degrees the first time spooling up.... I hooked up the vbar and it was an xxtreme version, did the upgrade and all went well. the only wires were two sats, the sensor and usb. super, did bind it allready ;-)

11-17-2012, 09:01 PM	#16 (permalink)
Laughingstill Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006	The soft start issue has nothing to do with the VBAR, It was in the ESC and the newest software versions fixed that I just got mine back and it has that software as well as the 16s upgrade and it is a BLAST!!!!

11-17-2012, 09:17 PM	#17 (permalink)
taosgraveyard Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2010	I have the newest and I still have a small kick I just pre-spin the blades Also, have your blade holder bolts pretty tight, or even the small kick might tip over the Heli when the blades folds in response to the small kick. It's easy smaller than it was though, it used to be pretty big,

11-18-2012, 07:31 AM	#19 (permalink)
taosgraveyard Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2010	There has only been two versions of the ESC so far Early allows using progcarx to set ESC values. Later one, some if not all of the ESC parameters are locked and cannot be changed using the program card There is an update for both, sent it back to mikado and they will fix the problem with the ESC failing to spool up. If yours won't spool, it needs to go back The ones that won't spool will usually spool up if you shut down throttle, wait a minute and try again. Mine does this sometimes, I have not sent it back yet. Requires a hardware tweak and perhaps software too, I don't know. I don't know but it's possible they are shipping this fix with the latest See the xxtreme forum at vstabi.info for details. You need to register to get into this forum. See the yellow sheet that came with the Heli for details on registering

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