Logo 6003D Build Thread

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Originally Posted by taildriven

Be sure to say your motor and esc setup. Maybe it can be offered as a package.

Taildriven..... The man that made it all happen!!! The kit is great! Really enjoying the build.

I will be using a CC 85HV ESC and a Actro 24-4 motor.

Originally Posted by Finless

Great work Lith! Keep em coming

Bob

Thanks Bob!

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Well just finish the tail...... The quality again was spot on.

Patience.... lots of patience. The tail went together good but thier are few things I'd like to point out.

Be sure that the two sets of boom clamps are VERY loose or you will not be able to get the boom in. I tightened mine before the boom was installed and thought I could simply loosen them up, not so and my mistake. It took some time to get the boom clamps spread back apart. I finally gained enough clearance to install the boom. The parts are very tight in tolerance. So PLEASE..... leave the boom clamps VERY loose until the boom is in place. The boom needs to be flush with the rear most boom clamp. That's very important when you tighten the belt tension later in the build. When you get to the point of tightening the boom clamps make certain that it's equally tight on the top and bottom. It plays a major roll in the squarness of the tail case.

Another thing is to make sure you get the left side frame turned in the right direction. I had mine upside down and had to remove the pieces and mount them on the other side. The manual is still in an early stage of print and it was ran off a copy machine making it very difficult to see the detail of the pieces and how they go. I recommend Mikado to blow up that portion of the manual. It would have made things much easier.

The grips have thrust bearings!!! Big plus on this kit. Get the thrust bearings installed with the races in the right order. Larger ID (inside diameter) race towards the hub and the smaller ID (inside diameter) race towards the grip. Use some white lithium grease to keep them moving free.

Be careful not to overtighten the tailbelt idler pulley. You want it nice a free with no binding!

I like the way the tail is designed in terms of keeping it light, however I fear that in a crash this will be a weak point. We'll see. The tail on this heli is loaded with parts so pay attention, be patient and take a few breaks. You will get together!!

Next is the main gear & tail rotor assembly!

EDIT*** Bellow is a pdf link of the manual.

[BruceW]

Here is a link to an actual PDF file of the build manual (13MB). It is newer than the one distributed by some other sites and is dated 9/16/07 so it should contain updated information. Just right-click and save as a file.

http://www.mikado-heli.de/shop/logo5...neration25.pdf

Also, here is a direct link to the Mikado site (presented in German and English):

http://mikado.e-vendo.de/

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BruceW.... Thank you for the pdf link. I wish I had this earlier, would have been a big help making the tail assembly a lot easier. Wasn't fun looking at a fuzzy copy machine pic. I'm sure once Mikado gets more of these kits out they will include a nicely printed one.

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Here is a shot of the tail boom flushed out with the rear most boom clamp.

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I was impressed with the tolerances again. The main-shaft fits in the bearing perfect, even the one-way was machined absolutely flawless. (Don't forget to grease the one-way bearing) It puts the quality of my old Raptor E620 down pretty bad.

Anyways, The boom slid in nice and firm. After I got the belt over the pulley and pulled back on the boom to set the belt tension I noticed I didn't need to pull back but about 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch. The boom has a nice deep depth in the frame. Simply wonderful...... I then installed the main gear and snap ring. If you don't have a snap ring tool it's going to be tough, so go buy one at your local auto parts store. I've seen people do it with screw drivers, ice picks and such but it's a lot of work. Snap rings aren't e-clips!

After I got finished assembling the main gear and setting the belt tension, I started looking at how tight that area is. I don't see how you can get enough slack to remove the belt. You may have to break down the heli by pulling the main gear off the shaft then remove the belt from the pulley. I don't see it slipping over the main gear. It looks like you may have to keep those snap ring pliers in your tool box at all times if you want to remove the boom. If you do own snap ring pliers and a couple of allens then it will be easy to remove the main gear, boom and rotor head. The heli is quite modular in design for travel and shouldn't take you more than a few minutes to stuff it in a box. Very cool!

It's starting to look like a heli!!

[jamesotron99]

Looks awesome Jeremy. Keep it up.

[Klinger]

Great work lith, my 600 looks like its at the same stage of building. Couple of questions
How many wrap around tail pushrod guides did you get in the kit. The picture on the box looks like it has 2 but the manual only shows one as what i have?
Also where the boom exits the main bofy it looks like there's supposed to be some kind of split clamp there as per the pitcure but the exploded view and my kit dosent seem to have anything?

[Funky]

Very nice Jeremy

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Originally Posted by Klinger

Great work lith, my 600 looks like its at the same stage of building. Couple of questions
How many wrap around tail pushrod guides did you get in the kit. The picture on the box looks like it has 2 but the manual only shows one as what i have?

Yes. I only have one in the kit. The rod is very thick and rigid and feel that one is spenty..... It may not even need that.

Originally Posted by Klinger

Also where the boom exits the main bofy it looks like there's supposed to be some kind of split clamp there as per the pitcure but the exploded view and my kit dosent seem to have anything?

Those are for the 500 series to take up some slack in the main body. It has a small diameter boom.

The 6003D uses a 25mm diameter boom and needs spacers see attached picture. I don't think the 600DX needs anything.

[ozace]

Come on. I want to hear how good these things go.:wink:

No, really , seriously just a little pressure. I cant get to mine yet (others to finish) but i'd love to read how good it goes. So far the thread has nice detail and great pics.

[Klinger]

Yep thanks, i have those smaller spacers in there so i'm guessing the frame will clamp down hard on the boom when i tighten it, of to do it now.
cheers

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Ran into a few minor kinks..... see pics.

EDIT*** Flybar pic added.

[buster1]

Regarding the bolt not being long enough - check out this thread - I believe you may have the mixing arm backwards - not sure on the 6003D, but that was the case with the 5003D,

http://www.helifreaks.com/showthread.php?t=45267

Don't quote me, but worth looking into too - from the pics., it looks like you have it backwards, but I might be wrong,

Thanks for the build thread,
Jeff

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Ok got the airframe all together!!! Ran into a few kinks I posted just above but over all it was a real nice easy build. The plans don't hold your hand like other companies. Some previous heli building experience came in handy. If you can download the pdf file of the manual it will be most helpful.

A few random thoughts. The plastic this heli is made of is VERY hard. Even the ball links are hard plastic. The links thread together sooooo easy. It has a funnel shape at the opening and makes threading your links a real pleasure. You know how the first few threads suck to get started on most builds? Well not on this one.

The blade grips are made out of this bad ass plastic material and look tougher than anything else out there in the world of plastic helis. Metal I'm sure would be tougher but not by much. I still can't get over the plastic being so hard and molded so well. I'm really impressed.

The flybar is a very thick gage of steal. Much thicker than the Raptor flybar.

The blade grips went together so nice. You will need two 4mm allens. The grips have thrust bearings so remember to get the races in the correct order. Larger ID (inside diameter) goes towards the head, the smaller ID race goes towards the grip.

The flybar system is a little under par and little finicky to assemble, but still looks very functional. It almost seams to be an after thought in the design. V-bar baby!!!! That's what's on Mikado's mind and I'm sure yours too.

The rubber battery hold downs are cool.... You may need to cut away a little exess molding flashing where they go with a sharp hobby knife. Takes about 4 minutes. Do this so they won't get get cut on the sharp edges.

I'm still looking for the nylon landing gear bolts (M3x10) If you know where I can get some hit me up.

So far I'm VERY happy I got this kit and sold the Raptor E620..... (I don't think their will be any contest) We will see for sure when I get it in the air in 2 weeks. Waiting on a motor, pinion & main blades.

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Originally Posted by buster1

Regarding the bolt not being long enough - check out this thread - I believe you may have the mixing arm backwards - not sure on the 6003D, but that was the case with the 5003D,

http://www.helifreaks.com/showthread.php?t=45267

Don't quote me, but worth looking into too - from the pics., it looks like you have it backwards, but I might be wrong,

Thanks for the build thread,
Jeff

Thanks Jeff.... I'm looking into it now....... Shawn help!

[ozace]

Very nicely done.
Re your pics above (pic 3 washout binding) , i had the same on my 5003d and fixed it the way you did. I had no other issues. I expect my 600 will be easier (Vbar) and your pictorial was nice to see.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by ozace

Very nicely done.
Re your pics above (pic 3 washout binding) , i had the same on my 5003d and fixed it the way you did. I had no other issues. I expect my 600 will be easier (Vbar) and your pictorial was nice to see.

Thanks

It's a new heli and is going to have a few kinks. So far nothing serious. I'm just so very happy

[buster1]

Yeah, I agree - I just finished the 5003D and looking forward to the 6003D - I like the low parts count - its truly the easiest helicopter I have ever built - but beyond the the great design features - its so much lighter then the competition - this was the other major reason I just shifted over to Mikado from another brand. And I really like the modular frame and servo mounts built in - thats cool!!

Down the road - I would like to try the V-bar - looks great.

Again, the build thread is very useful,
Jeff

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V-Bar.....