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11-07-2011, 01:32 PM | #21 (permalink) | |
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This saves a lot of grief.... https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=187110
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11-07-2011, 01:41 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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CP-II has paid for itself in saved crashes and in pure worry-free fun by the bucket-load. If you're concerned about fighting the heli into the ground, that's my specialty, but I only did it once with CP-II ( quite few more times with FM, but that's 'nuther story) and kicked myself all the way to the LHS to get parts.
While learning we all probably have a panic move which gets us out of the mess quickly. at first mine was to slam the collective down (a good way to get a boom strike on a Belt-CP), then when I could hover, my move was slam the rudder over to get the tail in and then level the bird. When I bought CP-II, my new move was to let-go the damn stick, and bump the collective up (retreat upwards to safety), just something to learn is all, no biggie. This move saves the bird even if you inadvertently fly it over your head, or into the sun, simply wait for it to be visible again and bring it back. |
11-07-2011, 02:08 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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NightFlyr:
Thanks for pointing that article to me. I'll read up on it but maybe I'll do it slightly different. I want to fly with CPII at ON all the time and if the ER is activated by toggling the remote switch from ON to OFF back to ON, then I maybe able to make use of the momentary contact trainer switch in my radio and mix it with the volume control which I used as the remote switch for my CPII. That way, if I need the ER then I only pull and release the trainer switch. Adventurer: I have crashed a few helis already and the first time I flew my Swift-NX last night with the CPII, was the first time I ventured far and high. I did not even worry that I cannot see the skid that much anymore. I was able to bring it back. Thank you for sharing the proper recover move, that is: hands-off on the right stick, collective up. I'll try to remember that when I fly my heli I also fly planes and the my tendency is throttle low during emergency Thanks again, folks. Rico. |
11-07-2011, 02:21 PM | #24 (permalink) | |
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11-07-2011, 02:29 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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I see this post may have caused some confusion: https://www.helifreak.com/showpost.p...36&postcount=2 Nevertheless, it is correct. I did not say what "activates" ER in that post. The FAQ referenced earlier in the thread is also correct. The remote must be in the OFF position, and then moved to the ON position; e.g., Level Flight Mode in order for ER to activate. This is intended to aid in quicker recovery during a "bail out" setup. If when turned ON, the CPII measures steep dive angle, then it doubles system gains to achieve level flight faster. As in, oh s&*t I'm headed straight towards the ground, flip the bail out switch! CPII will make sure it levels the bird as fast as possible. So, if you fly with CPII always ON, then you will likely not experience ER, even if it is set to ON in preferences. With regard to ER "taking over control of the model", this is not accurate. Pilot still can over-ride CPII. As to how much authority pilot would have would have to do with a) where gain is set normally, and b) stick priority setting. But in the event for which ER is intended to aid the pilot, it's not likely there would be time any way. The CPII can react much faster than humanly possible. If you're headed toward the ground, you probably have just enough time to flip the bail out switch and nothing more. Before you can blink, the heli will be level. For ER operation, all we're talking about is doubling the gains, nothing more. Depending on altitude, a demise with the ground when flying a heli can occur in 1-2 seconds or less as I'm sure you are all well aware. Hope this clears things up. Tim Marks |
11-07-2011, 03:08 PM | #26 (permalink) | |
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11-07-2011, 03:19 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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Tim: Thanks for the follow up and further clarifications.
Yes, that's true and I agree... if CPII is ON all the time then it's mostly unlikely that the model will be in an atittude which needs the ER activated. Unless of course, if the pilot had setup the stick priority so high to be able to perform loops and rolls. In this case, the momentary switch to toggle the state of CPII to OFF -ON to activate ER, will still help since ER will double the gain for faster recovery action. Ok, I think I can consider this case closed. I'm satisifed and I will have my ER set to Y. Too bad it's raining here and I cannot play with my heli after work Thank you so much to all three of you. Rico. |
11-07-2011, 04:14 PM | #28 (permalink) |
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I have no idea what your talking about
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11-08-2011, 11:54 AM | #29 (permalink) |
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