Wow, circles are so hard. Any tips?

[vertwake]

Originally Posted by questerng

Hi,

Just to share what I've found out that could help in flying circle..

1. imagine there's a clock facing the sky in front of you.. You'll have your 12 furthest from you, 6 closest to you.. and 3 is on your right side and 9 is your left side..

let say we start flying upright CW..

2. start with nose facing left at 6 hovering.. fly to 9 and have the heli facing front when you reach 9.. hover there for a moment..

3.From there fly a to reach 12 with the nose facing right when you reach 12.. hover for awhile..

4.Then fly to 3, and when you reach 3 your heli should be nose in.. hover there for awhile

5. finally fly to 6 again.. you should be back to where you start off..

you will need to fly like your are making a turn to achieve the desire result.

this exercise will help you to orientate all the different turn from all the diff positon.. ( or at lease it help me..) before you know it you'll be flying in circle..

once you get your upright down.. try tail, inverted nose and inverted tail..then try CCW..

Hope this help

Merry Christmas to all..

quest

This was the prefect visualization for me to help me get my head around it. Thanks!

[JC PAINT WORKZ]

When you say Realflight instructor is that something on their forum or on the actual SIM theres a instructor?

Originally Posted by clank72

I'm using RealFlight 5.5

Hovor: No problem.
Nose in: Can do it in my sleep.
Flips: No problem.
Land Anywhere smoothly: No problem.

Circles: What the hell?

This is VERY hard for me. I'm trying to perform low level circles over the runway. The flight instructor on Realflight makes it look so easy. He just says "Point the nose down and move the rudder slowly". Yeah right.

Any tips? I know, just more practice I guess.

[wwaller]

I don't know about 5.5 but back in 3.5 there were recorded flight lessons with voice instructions to step you through some key learning points.

[bchrny]

as you are moving forward lean the heli to the right ad slight left tail rotor pull back on cyclic ( a little ) and accelerate. some left cyclic will be added as you begin to turn,practice makes perfect. remember trial and error.THANK GOD FOR THE SIM !!! imagine what the crashes would cost without it???

[bchrny]

circles
as you are moving forward lean the heli to the right ad slight left tail rotor pull back on cyclic ( a little ) and accelerate. some left cyclic will be added as you begin to turn,practice makes perfect. remember trial and error.THANK GOD FOR THE SIM !!! imagine what the crashes would cost without it???

[DKS_ONE]

Originally Posted by bchrny

circles
as you are moving forward lean the heli to the right ad slight left tail rotor pull back on cyclic ( a little ) and accelerate. some left cyclic will be added as you begin to turn,practice makes perfect. remember trial and error.THANK GOD FOR THE SIM !!! imagine what the crashes would cost without it???

If you're flying forward and upright making a right circle, you'll need right rudder unless you fly with the tail reversed. True, the tail will MOVE left (nose right) but the input on the stick will be right so both sticks move in same direction or "co-ordinated" turn with upright forward fligh.

[bchrny]

right nose , left tail , notice the reference (left tail )= right nose - double mindedness , sorry for the confusion

[DKS_ONE]

I figured that's what you meant, I just wanted to make sure the stick motion was confirmed that's all. I knew where you were going

[bchrny]

Keep looking up brother !!!

[neilgreene]

Originally Posted by clank72

LN400, thanks for the response. I think I might need a bachelors degree in physics to decode your reply.

I will be practicing the sim.

I did. Loved it, but I needed my physics book.

[Canusr]

Hi guys.

I learned to fly circles like this:

1). First, I flew in the simulator around me. I turned after the helicopter. This allowed me to feel and understand how to fly a helicopter.And I was the center of the circle.

2). When I flew around with confidence, I moved the imaginary center of the circle in front of me. And after 8-10 flight I was able to fly in a circle. And then a few hours of training in the simulator to consolidate skills.

Sorry for my English.

[Arclight338]

Originally Posted by Suburban92

fly it like a plane.. add rudder to track tail with nose

Yes and no. In an airplane you add rudder and "center the ball"-then the turn will proceed coordinated as you keep the angle of bank constant with aileron. In a RC heli-you MUST keep the rudder input in to keep the tail turning-in an airplane(at least one you are flying IN holding the rudder would result in a skidding turn.

Circles require a delicate balancing act-holding the rudder command constant through the turn with very little aileron command and constant attention to the elevator. Without good rudder control, I find you'll end up flying sideways without the nose turning THOUGH the turn. MUCH,MUCH harder with an RC Heli than in a real airplane.

[marco.m]

I pick up this old thread

I have some problem flying circle
I fly heading hold mode on the tail

Do hold the rudder input the complete circle or do give same rudder input and then the rudder stick back to neutral ?.

Thanks

[Stephen Hoover]

Originally Posted by marco.m

I pick up this old thread

I have some problem flying circle
I fly heading hold mode on the tail

Do hold the rudder input the complete circle or do give same rudder input and then the rudder stick back to neutral ?.

Thanks

You need to keep some rudder in the whole way around the turn.
If the tail starts dropping you don't have enough rudder.