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10-02-2014, 07:57 PM | #21 (permalink) | |
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10-02-2014, 08:09 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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Yup I can confirm what you typed your procedure above I get the same results you do. The mistake you are making is this:
After you have changed your tail trim value for demonstration purposes, that new value is already entered in the skookum BUT NOT saved to your file on the lcd unit. Therefore when you return to files menu and send file to gyro you're sending your unmodified file in your lcd terminal back to the gyro. Just make the change, exit , and re enter you will see the value is saved. After you have made the change you have to "save from gyro" so that the lcd file name contains the revisions you just sent to the gyro. I love it !! Like I said I never had a problem with the lcd , its was other stuff for me haha |
10-02-2014, 08:24 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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Just as I suspected! You can save the file on the LCD if you wish or just save it on the PC the next time you connect up. Either way its the same thing, and keeping the new file saved for you somewhere.
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10-02-2014, 11:29 PM | #24 (permalink) |
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I can now see that the files get saved to the Skookum, but I'm getting all twisted around when I open the PC as the values I see aren't those that I entered into the skookum. In order to see them I have to Load them from the Skookum (I had assumed that the PC would read the file on the Skookum when it opened.)
I'm going to have to go through the motions several times in order to get my head wrapped around this file convention. I would have expected that if I say "SAVE TO GYRO" that the file would be saved to the GYRO. That doesn't appear to be the case. But at this hour, I'm probably going around in circles anyway. What I see is that some settings DO change while others do not. Particularly, Cyclic Accel will not always change when changed in the LCD. Lock Gains to a partucular number also does not always change (If I uncheck it, it remains checked.) I'll give it a look in the morning and see if I can make more sense of things. Thank you for the advice and pointing me in the right direction. I"ll get there. I'm starting to think that the unit is ok and the owner may be defective Last edited by hrefab; 10-02-2014 at 11:45 PM.. Reason: Added Information. |
10-03-2014, 12:00 AM | #25 (permalink) |
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The fact that cyclic accel does not change is a known bug in the the LCD firmware. It has been fixed in the v4.05 firmware that is now in beta testing.
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10-03-2014, 12:09 AM | #26 (permalink) |
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!
I can Sleep at last!!! (With the proof finally that I'm NOT crazy....well, not TOO crazy anyway!) |
10-03-2014, 01:46 PM | #27 (permalink) | |
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For example, if you have your AUX2 channel on your radio set as a cyclic gain channel (under the "Receiver" page on the LCD or the "Control" tab on the setup software), you can choose to use the channel end point setting in your transmitter to set the gain value or you can lock the gain to a value that you choose in the LCD. If you DON'T have a channel assigned as a cyclic gain channel, then you MUST use locked gains. In short, if you turn off locked gains when there's no cyclic or tail gain channel selected, the LCD turns it back on. |
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10-03-2014, 03:28 PM | #28 (permalink) |
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This is correct. I use locked gains in the software both cyclic and tail, and I am free to change those gain values to anything I want using the FT.
If you have assigned either one of these to a remote gain using a channel on your TX, then you use the assigned TX channel to adjust the gains and not the FT.
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10-03-2014, 07:35 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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I'm going to setup several different files and see if I can get them to work. I'll set up my Warp 360 as it is already working well with the Skookum 540. This way I can see if changes are being made and saved.
I can really see the value of having the ability to switch tings up on the fly without the need for a computer. So if I can get this sorted out, it will be a terrific addition to the box. I have to learn how to save a setup and then retrieve it, send it to the gyro and work from there. |
10-03-2014, 07:39 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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I believe it will hold about 25 different setup files if memory serves me correctly, so you should be fine.
Once again though, you don't need a specific file saved on the FT ahead of time in order to make a change to your gyro. Simpy make the change in real time just like you were on your PC, hit the center button to send to the gyro and your done and fly and see how things feel. There is no need for several setup files saved for a model because you can change anything you want on the gyro at any time you want right there on the spot. Once you get the model tuned and flying the way you like, save that one file after you are finished tuning on the FT or your PC and be done with it. Good luck!
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10-03-2014, 07:41 PM | #31 (permalink) |
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From the sound of it your just doing it wrong. Save file from gyro to ft. Any changes you make are auto loaded into the 540 and not saved in the file on the ft. You will have to resave the file after uploading the change.
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10-03-2014, 08:03 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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Two things here. One, the reason (well, my reasoning) for multiple setup files is that I can have several setups stored in the FT and call them up without having to enter the changes page by page. So that would be convenient for experimenting. Also, you can use the FT then for multiple helis if you have multiple Skookums.
And two, I just got an email from ART concerning the bug in Ver.4.0 that he says will be addressed in the upcoming firmware update being released next week. That will cure the Cyclic Accel issue (which was already mentioned here). I appreciate good customer service and ART seems to handle things well. He could make some more videos though |
10-03-2014, 08:09 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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That makes sense, especially if you have different files for the same helis with multiple changes to them. Easier to just load the other file in than to make all the changes manually to the gyro. Your gyro can also already have two different files within it at the same time at all times since you have two different cyclic and tail banks you can switch between in flight.
Sounds like you are on your way, and I think you will love the FT once you get used to it and the menus
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10-03-2014, 08:27 PM | #34 (permalink) |
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You know, as you get more used to the unit it DOES seem like it's pretty intuitive. It's still tricking me up with the File Creation/Saving, but it's not nearly as dumbfounding as it was when I first fired it up. I think you expect a certain behavior and when it doesn't operate the way you expect, you tend to think the unit is screwy. As you get used to the conventions used in the unit, it become s easier to understand (along with a healthy dose of assistance from other HeliFreaks!)
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