NEW - Walkera Genius CP Videos

[nascar1929]

Going through the manual the heli came with (Devo 6 version) these are the settings I followed step by step to program the Devo 8:

Swash Type = Servo Normal

Reverse Switch = All Normal

Dual Rate and Expo = Channel: Elevator
Position: Pos 0
Duel Rate: 100%
100%
Expo: Line
Line

Throttle Curve =
Normal Mode: Expo off
Point (L) 0.0% Point (1) 16.5% Point (2) 33.5% Point (M) 50.0% Point (3) 66.5% Point (4) 83.5% Point (H) 100.0%
Output 0.0%

In the next 2 modes the manual recommends these settings, but I can't figure out how to change them.

Stunt 1 and 2 Mode: Expo off
Point (L) 100.0% Point (1) 93.5% Point (2) 86.5% Point (M) 80.0% Point (3) 86.5% Point (4) 93.5% Point (H) 100.0%
Output 100.0%

My actual settings for Stunt 1 and 2 are the same as normal mode except the output shows 100%.

Pitch Curve =
Normal Mode: Expo off
Point (L) -100%
Output -15%
Point (L) -100.0% Point (1) -67% Point (2) -33% Point (M) 0% Point (3) 33% Point (4) 67% Point (H) 100.0%

Stunt Mode 1 and 2: Expo off
Point (L) -100%
Output -55%
Point (L) -100.0% Point (1) -67% Point (2) -33% Point (M) 0% Point (3) 33% Point (4) 67% Point (H) 100.0%

The manual says it should be:
Normal Mode:
Point (L) -15% Point (1) 0% Point (2) 12% Point (M) 25% Point (3) 36% Point (4) 49% Point (H) 60%

Stunt 1 and 2 Mode:
Point (L) -55% Point (1) -37% Point (2) -18% Point (M) 0% Point (3) 20% Point (4) 40% Point (H) 60%

Gyro Sensor = Mode: Manual
Switch: Mix Sw
Pos 0: 75.0%
Pos 1: 70.0%
Pos 2: 50.0%

[nascar1929]

I compared these settings to by brothers stock Mini CP with Devo 8S and all are the same except for the Pitch curve output which his is set a -12%. Also, all of his Expo's were ON so I turned mine on as well.

Don't know if it makes a difference that the Genius has the upgraded Brushless motor or not.

[pinguin]

I think you have the pitch reverse. Better check your blade with pitch gauge.

[nascar1929]

I don't have a pitch guage so will have to eyeball it. When checking the pitch of the blades, are they supposed to be level with the throttle stick on the TX at 0% or 50%?

[BarnOwl]

50%

[nascar1929]

Thanks, I'll see if I can get them as level as possible at 50% throttle, then try flying it again to see how it acts.

[BarnOwl]

BTW: If you guys are struggling with an obstinate tail (drift, hunting etc.) just increase the pitch of the blades by using a heatgun.

Pictures posted here

[nascar1929]

Well, this Genius CP still doesn't work correctly. I have checked the pitch of the blades. They are level when the throttle stick is at 50% in normal mode. Tried to fly it again and still not acting right.

As I throttle up beyond 50% in normal mode, it won't leave the ground. If I switch it to Stunt mode 1, it will begin to lift. As I throttle up to about 65-70% it starts to bog down again.

If I'm in Stunt mode 1 on the ground then switch it back to normal mode, it jumps in the air about 5 feet or so.

I ordered a new stock motor to replace the BL motor and esc that it came with to tone it down a bit. No matter which motor is installed, it does the same thing.

Anyone have any more ideas what I can do?

[Silver-techie]

Originally Posted by nascar1929

Well, this Genius CP still doesn't work correctly. I have checked the pitch of the blades. They are level when the throttle stick is at 50% in normal mode. Tried to fly it again and still not acting right.

As I throttle up beyond 50% in normal mode, it won't leave the ground. If I switch it to Stunt mode 1, it will begin to lift. As I throttle up to about 65-70% it starts to bog down again.

If I'm in Stunt mode 1 on the ground then switch it back to normal mode, it jumps in the air about 5 feet or so.

I ordered a new stock motor to replace the BL motor and esc that it came with to tone it down a bit. No matter which motor is installed, it does the same thing.

Anyone have any more ideas what I can do?

Sounds like your radio setting are wrong, if your heli is mechanically setup correctly.

Are you flying your Genius right out of the box without setting things up?

Stunt 1 and 2 (pitch curve) should be setup of as linear pitch curve (0-25-50-75-100) That allows the blade to move to the full extent for neg and pos pitch. (-12 pitch / +12 pitch) <-- as an example

Normal just need to be set to where you don't have too much neg pitch on lift off (35-45-50-75-100). (-5 pitch / +12 pitch) <-- as an example

Throttle curve, the normal, should be linear 0-25-50-75-100. For Stunt 1 and 2, should be flat lined at your preference, but I think its better just to set 1 and 2 the same. The genius is very small so having it flat lined on different setting like 90-90-90-90-90 vs 100-100-100-100-100, I don't think you'll see or feel much difference. I'd set it 100 across.

Now going back to what you said:

As I throttle up beyond 50% in normal mode, it won't leave the ground. If I switch it to Stunt mode 1, it will begin to lift. As I throttle up to about 65-70% it starts to bog down again.

When your at 50% and it doesn't leave the ground, is normal. The blades should be around 0 pitch, which does not give you lift or push you down. Now when you get to 65-70% and the motor bogs down... I'm guessing your have neg pitch at that point, meaning you heli is pushing down into the ground, rather then lifting up.

Going back to what you said here:

If I'm in Stunt mode 1 on the ground then switch it back to normal mode, it jumps in the air about 5 feet or so.

It shouldn't do that at all. That indicates to me, your pitch curve is way different from the stunt mode, or there is some other underlying setting problem on the radio if the heli is mechanically setup correctly. I'd double check the REV settings are correct for the servo's, and that the radio is setup correctly.

[pinguin]

Disconnect your main and tail motor from Rx.
Now you can play with the throttle stick freely and the stunt switch.
When you increase the throttle stick, does the blade give you positive pitch?
Then try stunt 1. It should give you negative, 0, positive.

[Slammm]

I picked up the Genus last week, unfortunately I didn't do any research and ended up with a Devo 7 transmitter, I'm getting it figured out and not all that bad just takes time. At first I swore I would never own another Walkera again then I (tried) to read the instruction manual and watched Bob's Videos and wow it fly's and really takes the abuse, I mean really, really takes the abuse, one tough little bird. I've been flying helies for about three years but never attempted 3D (a flip or roll is good enough for me)

I have a 450 clone and a TRex 500 but just fly around like a fixed pitch heli. I got the Genus to start trying 3D and want to make sure I understand switch location and function.

so here is my understanding:

Idle up (3D mode) keeps the motor running at the programmed throttle curve at high and low stick allowing inverted flight.And the switch is located on the left above the throttle stick (mode 2)

And throttle hold would kill the power to the motor (if programmed that way) regardless of stick position and bring the pitch to your programmed pitch, (zero) and located on the right.

Thanks and thanks for not laughing to much over the question.

Sam

[nascar1929]

I have got my pitch out of wack on the blades from messing around with the linkages. I ordered a pitch guage and it's on the way. Can someone tell me what the proper degree of pitch the blades should be when I move the throttle stick to 50% in normal mode? Is this the correct way to set the pitch of the blades?

[pinguin]

At 50% you should have 0 degree pitch for Normal and Stunt.
Have your pitch at: -12/0/+12

Normal: -2 (40%) / 0 (50%) / +12 (100%)
Stunt: -12 (0%) / 0 (50%) / +12 (100%)

[BarnOwl]

Originally Posted by Slammm

so here is my understanding:

Idle up (3D mode) keeps the motor running at the programmed throttle curve at high and low stick allowing inverted flight.And the switch is located on the left above the throttle stick (mode 2)

And throttle hold would kill the power to the motor (if programmed that way) regardless of stick position and bring the pitch to your programmed pitch, (zero) and located on the right.

Thanks and thanks for not laughing to much over the question.

Sam

Yep, that's it. In my case I had to switch the throttle hold to the right (As in Bob's video)

[razer t-rex]

WOW watched 5 min of the first video and i aoutmatically want one now!!!! crazy that the remote is touch screen!!! and color! i looked up price and its like 260!!!!! for that much heli and radio cant believe it!!! when i gae a spare 260 im buying one forsure!

so then i saw this on the site for only a few bucks more the V120D02S which uses torque tube so i guess the tail would hold like a dream and still be palmsized

[probicha]

Hey, what is the battery size for the Walkera mini cp genius (the new version). I would like to upgrade it to brushless with bigger battery...I wonder if this battery will fit :300mAh 43 X 17 X 6mm

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._Pro_100_.html

Or the one for the MCPx 48,5 x 7,1 x 19

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ade_mCPx_.html


Regards,

[bryont]

Hello Bob,

I have been watching these videos.

Do you have a Devo 8. What's a good way to setup the Devo 8 for a Genius. I have been using a DX6I so I am used to the throttle hold on the right.

I get a bit confused about where to put the Flight mode's and Throttle hold.

Thanks,
Bryon

[CX2Pilot]

Finless, can I post your Devo 8 settings for the Genius CP from your videos into my
Walkera TX/RX Setup Guides sticky?


Walkera TX/RX Setup Guides with Pictures and Video

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=400204


Tom

[CX2Pilot]

Bob gave me permission to use his settings for the Genius CP/Devo 6 and make
a setup guide for them. I posted it in my RX/TX sticky.
This setup guide should also work for the Devo 7, Devo 8, Devo 10, and Devo 12 transmitters.

Walkera TX/RX Setup Guides with Pictures and Video

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=400204


Direct link to it.

https://www.helifreak.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=20


Tom

[bryont]

Devo Dual rate and Exponetial Screen

I think I understand Box under "Normal Mode" Allows you to change the settings on the
Elevator, Ailron and Rudder to either position 1 or postion 2


I am not sure how the Stunt 1 and Stunt 2 sections work yet?

Does anybody have good explanation or source of information on this?

Thanks,

Bryon