Are we going to see an updated 700E??

[justindewoody]

Originally Posted by esmoglo

I run 14+ and 14- at 2300 RPM with JR 8917HV’s no binding never had that problem. Did you install the shims on the bell cranks correctly? I have built two 700E's V1 and V2 never had a binding problem.

+1000

[lucien]

Originally Posted by terrabit

Yes, everything is installed correctly. Since the collision occurs on the inside of the servo wheels, shims on the inside of the bell-cranks could make the problem worse, not better. Shims under the servos could help but we are talking about a stock setup. It's really not a problem for me. I don't spend enough time at the relevant extremes, and I can't imagine many people do. However if you're talking about optimizing geometry, I believe this could be improved. And frankly, I don't give a damn who agrees with me. I'm funny that way.

Well I kind of agree that the balls being on the inside of the servo wheels is a bit goofy - if you want to reduce your radii, the balls can hit the servo at rotation extremes past a certain point. So if it were me, I'd change it up to where the balls are on the other side of the horns.

And on the nitro they really need to go to the adjustable bellcranks and elevator arm - as-is, there's just way too damn much throw for FBL even with the balls as far in as you can get them.

Or, just go direct-to-swash and live with those limitations (wider profile, a lot less strength). I'm not totally in love with direct-to-swash, but the simplicity and adjustability would probably be worth it...

LS

[terrabit]

Originally Posted by lucien

Well I kind of agree that the balls being on the inside of the servo wheels is a bit goofy - if you want to reduce your radii, the balls can hit the servo at rotation extremes past a certain point. So if it were me, I'd change it up to where the balls are on the other side of the horns.

And on the nitro they really need to go to the adjustable bellcranks and elevator arm - as-is, there's just way too damn much throw for FBL even with the balls as far in as you can get them.

Or, just go direct-to-swash and live with those limitations (wider profile, a lot less strength). I'm not totally in love with direct-to-swash, but the simplicity and adjustability would probably be worth it...

LS

This is really all I was getting at. I don't get the fanboy denial. There is just no justification for it. Without some degree of objective criticism progress becomes difficult or impossible. Christ, I've owned a dozen Align ships. I thoroughly respect the fact that Align has been increasingly more responsive to user feedback. This tells me they are flexible and creative and that they will not be left in the dust of a changing industry that thrives on tech innovation. Can I get a +1000 on that? Never mind, that kind of duchebaggery is completely unnecessary. An articulate response, even a bad one, is much more valuable. All of this is, of course, just my opinion.

[f22warzone]

Originally Posted by terrabit

...... Can I get a +1000 on that?.......

+1001.

To Soon?

[terrabit]

Na, it's cool. Wise guy!

[PauloG]

Originally Posted by esmoglo

Cool 700E V3....not sure if I will get one mine ROCKS now can’t see it getting any better (JR 8917HV’s, Outrage HV tail servo, V-bar, DFC head, third bearing block, KDE tail, KDE bracing) Stock power system plus or minus a few CC recalls and ESC fires and I still love the way it fly’s. DFC head was a big improvement in terms of performance gains for the 700E. I will keep the V2 and skip the V3

Awesome heli!



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[lucien]

Originally Posted by terrabit

This is really all I was getting at. I don't get the fanboy denial. There is just no justification for it. Without some degree of objective criticism progress becomes difficult or impossible. Christ, I've owned a dozen Align ships. I thoroughly respect the fact that Align has been increasingly more responsive to user feedback. This tells me they are flexible and creative and that they will not be left in the dust of a changing industry that thrives on tech innovation. Can I get a +1000 on that? Never mind, that kind of duchebaggery is completely unnecessary. An articulate response, even a bad one, is much more valuable. All of this is, of course, just my opinion.

Well again, the electric doesn't have a wholesale geometry problem with FBL - that's not a "fanboy denial", that's just a fact. Apart from the minor binding issue which I -ish agree is a problem, it's really pretty close for any FBL unit you want to put on it with all the balls on the inner holes.

The nitro, OTOH, is hopeless with the stock bellcranks . Way too much throw and it really can't be fixed without replacing those bellcranks with the electric versions. But the nitro is basically a flybar machine and its geometry is perfect for that.

But I don't think Align cares too much about their nitro lines anymore unfortunately, given the rate at which they're updating it.

So we'll see how they respond to the competition on things like this. They've already got a new head (the DFC head) and it looks like there's more demand for direct-to-swash. DTS would probably help make the geometry more adjustable...

LS

[helicraze]

Sweet if its good ill get one!

[Mystic3D]

Geez. My 700E is my best bird. I stopped counting flights past 500. Updates have been regular, it's flawless now. I think align has hit it out of the park with the 700N and 700E.


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[timmay]

pics are starting to roll out!

[shein95]

oh cool, even hiding the dfc swash ball from the air flow by turning it sideways. but looks like its a one peice grip/grip arm so no way to change the resolution if it's not vbar friendly and has a a/r bracket so looks direct linkage too.

[BigIreland]

Nice! I just hope the FBL geometry is good with V-Bar and that the servo arms don't hit anything(my 500EFL and 550E both have Elevator arms that hit both the top of the tt case and the bottom of the antirotation bracket at full throws). I won't be getting one until August so hopefully any bugs on the initial release will be worked out by then and I can go to immediately beating it up.

[OnTheSnap]

I wonder what's needed to upgrade a v2 to a 700e DFC? Looks like a good upgrade with perhaps some weight savings.

[msallua]

More pic's

[Dogdocphil]

Now that is what Im talkin about! Looks awesome.

[504Rone]

I wanna see it without the canopy. Looks like the batteries are still under the bottom. Dont think it will take much to convert the v2 to the dfc.

[shein95]

the v2 already has the dfc kit as an add on but i'm more curious to see if they've done away with the push pull set up. i'm sure they have since i doubt they would put a direct linkage in the ele servo while leaving the push/pull on the front. shouldn't be long now if they're starting to leak photos. i'm sure they would like to beat mikado to the stores with a new 700 which is what? june/july?

[timmay]

I bet there will be a video soon since Alan Jr. Is in Taiwan this week.

[msallua]

Available in June

[andreansyah]

I see it as direct swash Trex 450 pro is it true ......... and be sure to upgrade from v2 much greater cost to buy a new kit 700e