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08-14-2013, 12:35 AM | #21 (permalink) |
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Damn my luck. Excited as I was to fly problem free this past Saturday, sadly it was not the case. I fly up switch to stunt 2, bring it up some, like 10 seconds or less, motor cuts off and it autos down, but still broke my newly replaced landing gear, lol. So yeah another trip to LHS to replace landing gear. My friend Nartac strongly suggests its my cool 33A Esc as the culprit, but I have nothing else to compare to. I may pick up a yep45A as a suitable replacement, and pray it fixes my issue.
In meantime, I did update my firmware on my current Esc from 10.1 to 10.3 on Sunday. Not saying it would miraculously fix my issue, but curious if it would update or give me some sign it would fail or something. Well it didn't, so it's a coin toss really as to what the deal is. I hope to figure it out soon, I miss flying it.
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08-14-2013, 01:32 AM | #22 (permalink) |
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You need to hook up that telemetry stuff you were asking about.
The YEP 30 works just fine by the way...
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08-14-2013, 05:59 AM | #23 (permalink) |
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Before you spend the cost of a 300 in parts and troubleshooting consider it's the bx. Went through this myself. Would add something , change something do a lot of hovering think it's fixed get a few flights and it would drop out the sky and I'd spend another $40 dollars putting it back together. Send the bx to HH with your reciept and get it checked out!
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08-14-2013, 09:41 AM | #24 (permalink) | |
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In just about every case I've had this happen it had to do with loose wiring...either the connector going from the ESC/BEC to the receiver being loose or a bad solder joint on one of the bullet connectors between the ESC and the motor. It could be that you have a faulty ESC and/or BEC. Either of the YEPs is a good option. I know several people who swear by them. I like Castles personally because of their USB connectivity and logging capabilities. But you can't beat YEPs for the price. I like their architecture with the BEC on a totally separate board from the ESC. I suppose it is possible that the receiver in the AR7200BX could be at fault, but I'd say that's a much more remote possibility. (pardon the pun) Have you tried doing a range check lately?
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08-14-2013, 05:28 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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If you have a temporary cut-out problem ( the motor cut for a second and after return to normal) is an interference problem. My 300x and other people on the 300x forum and my friend with is trex 450 with beastx have this problem and resolve with re-route wire. The problem is the ESC wire passe to close of the beastx and other wire of servo. Juste passe all the wire in other way more far as possible to beastx and the ESC in unique way and the problem will be gone. With four heli with the beastx this method have resolved the problem.
Sorry for my English, I'm french Canadian and I know I have some errors. Good luck with that!! |
08-15-2013, 07:22 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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Hey guys, a lot of great advice thanks. I will give the Esc a good look over for any looseness, and or weak solder. I will try that and apply the other advice given above. The yep45 will be the next thing. It's not a bad idea to have as a spare part on hand anyway. Thanks all for chiming in, this all helps me greatly.
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08-15-2013, 08:06 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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4 heli including mine we had the problem of the engine stopped for a second, and with four heli the solution was to pass the esc wire another way away from other wire and the beastx. I think, juste separate de esc wire the other wire with example, under the frame like me, is enough to resolve the problem. Good luck and give me new about that.
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08-15-2013, 09:21 PM | #28 (permalink) | |
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I'll have a chance to really change it up, and have a closer inspection on my existing esc to see if I can spot anything. As far as my connections into beastx, they are nice and tight, they don't wiggle loose, so my problem has to be on the other end, and may be very well the existing cool 33A esc I have. Again this weekend is when i'll have more time to look very closely and try a lot of the advice given.
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08-15-2013, 09:40 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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I wait for you to try this way just to see if it is still the solution. I hope so. When it happened to me I searched long time and my friend, barely had time to talk to me.
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08-16-2013, 10:55 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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This is the tread that some people previously has this problem
Look the picture below and in the page 2 https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=475806 |
08-17-2013, 02:16 AM | #31 (permalink) | |
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From reading the thread you gave me, I noticed how there was also better results with wiring away from the antenna of the beastx, so for that, I have ESC and BEC, and two of my servo wires coming from the opposite side. Beastx on mine is on top (not on bottom like yours and that thread) I only have one servo wire that comes on the side of the antenna side, but all in all, the wires are no longer all binded together, they have 4 to 5 seperate zip ties and most importantly away from antenna, and esc and bec wires are zip tied on the inner plastic of frame, then it comes and meets just above the boom. It looks much better than I ever had it, which was all on the antenna side and shared 1 zip tie that held it all bunched up and literally by beastx antenna. Now this will be the ultimate test to see if this solves it with resolution being that interference, or if the esc is in fact wigging out on me and needs replacement. Wish me luck. I'll need it, i'll also be maidening a trex 450 pro DFC that's finally done and ready to go. As always, I'll be sure to report back how it all went. Thanks again for the advice , support and links. One thing at a time, and I'll be sure to nail this issue, I'm sure of it!
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08-19-2013, 12:35 AM | #32 (permalink) |
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Update time!
Saturday - I find my heli has major vibes going on in the head. I land and suspect spindle, removed one blade, turned the screw and all checks out fine and straight. Nartac helped me check and correct some things in beastx to see if it would help, but took to the air and still very vibey. However while that is going on, I didn't cut out in power at least. So it may seem while one issue may be corrected, another is born. I suppose the cut outs from the week before has affected something else. I went home and that night, I decided to change out my main shaft in case it may be bent. I took it out today, got I going in a hover and it began vibing. You can see it and now it was enough to affect beastx. The extent of vibes was causing it to roll right. It made it through one battery, just hover and testing, again no more cut out, but now I'm chasing the vibes. Main blades are next to swap out, I suspect my CF blades out of balance and if not that maybe my main blade grips are warped or something. (Stock plastic grips). So go figure, fix one issue, and now I'm chasing another issue, haha. My poor 300x just can't get a break to just fly and have fun. Luckily though to not call my weekend a bust, I was able to fly and enjoy my trex 450 pro DFC. It did great maiden and flew overall great, so I a glad at least something flying well and not keeping me grounded.
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08-19-2013, 10:07 AM | #33 (permalink) |
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I am satisfied to learn that you had no other cut of engine. Let know us after several flight if the problem did not return. Hope that you can solve the problem of vibration. Give us other news.
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08-19-2013, 12:42 PM | #34 (permalink) | |
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08-22-2013, 11:57 AM | #35 (permalink) |
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Hi dragon79, do you have other cut-out of motor?
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08-24-2013, 02:57 PM | #36 (permalink) |
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Jean-Michael:
I haven't flown today, I planned on it, but as mentioned before I discovered a bad vibration coming from the head. Again it probably came into play from all those motor cut outs. Well last night I took more apart to inspect each thing. Nartac helped suggest a few places to look. Long story short when I pulled out the spindle, all was well, looked over thrust bearings, good and greased. I took the bearings in the blade grips, and in one of the blade grips I found a warped/damaged bearing. I think there lies my issue. I am going to get a new one and also while at it pick up some spare parts I need. I'd love to change my blade grips to alum but holding off for lynx, I know they releasing parts weekly it seems like. I hope to have some flights in tomorrow to put really put the bird to the test and see if any more cut outs. I'll keep you and all posted!
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08-25-2013, 02:22 PM | #37 (permalink) |
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Alright!!! 300x flies again! No motor cut outs and no more head vibes!
Resolution: re-route wires away from beastx as best as possible resolved my motor cut outs. Also changed out grip bearing that was warped/damaged to rid that horrible head vibes. Nartac bared witness to its triumphant flight, issue free! Thanks to all who helped with suggestions and for otherwise support to have me keep at it to find the problems. I'm real happy and glad to hit the field and fly my 300x along with my trex 450 pro DFC today!!
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