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Ber60 · 04-03-2008, 11:04 AM

Hi guy's tought I share this mod with you .
It is a modified version of the Direct To Swash mod

Inside the frame

Lexan (plexi like but softer) servo holder

As you can tell I like to mod and had a new camera to test
Hope you enjoy the pics
More pics

DierWolf · 04-03-2008, 01:24 PM

Ber60...

When you get the chance add some more detail, this will be stickied shortly.

DierWolf · 04-04-2008, 10:18 AM

Maybe in White ?

Ber60 · 04-04-2008, 10:23 AM

From who is that albino ?
I think I recognize the lazy mary tough

What no background music ?

DierWolf · 04-04-2008, 10:25 AM

Ber60 your Camera rocks, mine used to work as good as that then all of a sudden its crap... anyways..

Here folks, didnt want to sticky the other thread with Trex Head video so its also appropriate here.

BELT CP WITH DTS MOD & T-REX HEAD.

DierWolf · 04-04-2008, 10:39 AM

DTS MODIFICATION - ALTERNATIVE VERSION

Advantages to the DTS mods are:

1) Swashplate is more precise now, hardly any CCPM interaction due to slop.
2) The heli is much lighter after the mod with the removal of 4 linkage rods, 3 bellcrank levels, 6 bearings and abit of the frame material.
3) Option of mounting the Lipo on the upper part of the frame thus improving the roll characteristics of the heli as the cg is closer inline with the tail boom.
4) Cheap to carry out, the E352 mounts (Alternative method only) costs only $5.20 and is the only item you'll need. I believe this is the most "bang for the buck" anything that I have ever done.
5) The helis now flies very precisely, there is no pitching during forwards, punchups are vertical (not slewing to the side as previously) and the heli seems to be a little more agile (due to the weight reduction)

CodeB4U · 04-04-2008, 06:02 PM

I have the E325 servo holders. Can you take a better picture of where you mounted them? Maybe an outline of the holder and the body? Picture is too dark, it's hard to distinguish what is what and where you used the screws to mount them.

DierWolf · 04-04-2008, 06:28 PM

Its Trial and Error, mount your servo on the Servo Base and find where the link is the straightest to the swash with the servo arm at 90 degrees... Thats where you mount it to the frame

DexRast · 04-04-2008, 08:02 PM

can anyone point me in the direction of the servo mounts, ive checked ebay and various other searches and cant find them anywhere,

thanks in advance

DierWolf · 04-04-2008, 09:00 PM

Sorry the new crew should have thought of that

But we were so oppressed with not being allowed to post links to sites we forgot.

Servo Tray your looking for is for the Mini Titan E325..

This site has some.

http://www.eboyztoyz.net/index.php?op=showitem&sku=8181

$$shane$$ · 04-06-2008, 09:03 PM

Anyone ever seen a DTS mod on a carbon Belt frame?

DierWolf · 04-06-2008, 09:22 PM

Not yet, and personally i would not do it with that frame... Unless you want to experiment that is.

$$shane$$ · 04-06-2008, 09:48 PM

My frame should show up in about a week and a half. I'll do some measuring and 'fiddling' and post my results.

DierWolf · 04-07-2008, 07:18 AM

It can be done, just i dont trust Esky's single direction weave of the carbon fiber that much.

You can do it the way they have it on the King II, look up some pictures of its carbon fiber frame and you will see how the 2 servo's are mounted at the rear and the one up front on the side.

God only knows why they would switch from direct to swash to links on a newer bird.

helihathnofury · 04-08-2008, 07:47 AM

Ber60,
My DTS mod is very similar to yours, but I have not cut as much of the left side support away to make way for the pitch servo. This has left me with less servo travel due a shorter servo horn. I believe that i will have to cut more away, so on your mod, has this made the left side if the frame a bit weak, or have you strengthened it somehow?

Mike

DierWolf · 04-08-2008, 08:01 AM

Look at the side rib right at the center of the frame in line with the shaft.

There is a High ridge then lower section then back up to a high ridge again... cut away
up to the 2nd high ridge, leaving the ridge there, that should allow enough space for
the servo arm and also keep the servo from touching the shaft.

Again the servo acts as a replacement beam so really no additional strengthening is needed, ifyou want to add you can do it right at that section the same way you did the bracing for the back 2 servos.

helihathnofury · 04-08-2008, 08:05 AM

Yes, thanks I see what you have done; will need to do the same [when dexterity permits!!].

Mike

Ber60 · 04-08-2008, 11:10 AM

Dierwolf you have a way with words I like

helihathnofury · 04-08-2008, 11:27 AM

What's this? Some form of mutual admiration society? Wouldn't be allowed on the 'other' forum !!!

Ber60 · 04-08-2008, 11:32 AM

HaHaHa THANKS Thanks LOL

Man I still love it

04-03-2008, 11:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ber60 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008	Direct To Swash (DTS) mod Hi guy's tought I share this mod with you . It is a modified version of the Direct To Swash mod Inside the frame Lexan (plexi like but softer) servo holder As you can tell I like to mod and had a new camera to test Hope you enjoy the pics More pics Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Ber60; 04-03-2008 at 04:07 PM.. Reason: More pictures

04-04-2008, 10:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ber60 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008	From who is that albino ? I think I recognize the lazy mary tough What no background music ? __________________ Anything that flies

04-08-2008, 07:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
helihathnofury Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008	Ber60, My DTS mod is very similar to yours, but I have not cut as much of the left side support away to make way for the pitch servo. This has left me with less servo travel due a shorter servo horn. I believe that i will have to cut more away, so on your mod, has this made the left side if the frame a bit weak, or have you strengthened it somehow? Mike __________________ Happy Heli-days !!!!!!!! Skip T-Rex 450Sport, T-Rex 500ESP, T-Rex 600NSP FBL, OS55, MicroBeastX Plus, Futaba 14SG,

04-08-2008, 08:05 AM	#17 (permalink)
helihathnofury Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008	Yes, thanks I see what you have done; will need to do the same [when dexterity permits!!]. Mike __________________ Happy Heli-days !!!!!!!! Skip T-Rex 450Sport, T-Rex 500ESP, T-Rex 600NSP FBL, OS55, MicroBeastX Plus, Futaba 14SG,

04-08-2008, 11:10 AM	#18 (permalink)
Ber60 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008	Dierwolf you have a way with words I like __________________ Anything that flies

04-03-2008, 01:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
DierWolf My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2007	Ber60... When you get the chance add some more detail, this will be stickied shortly.

04-04-2008, 10:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
DierWolf My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2007	Maybe in White ?

04-04-2008, 10:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
DierWolf My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2007	Ber60 your Camera rocks, mine used to work as good as that then all of a sudden its crap... anyways.. Here folks, didnt want to sticky the other thread with Trex Head video so its also appropriate here. BELT CP WITH DTS MOD & T-REX HEAD.

04-04-2008, 10:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
DierWolf My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2007	DTS MODIFICATION - ALTERNATIVE VERSION Advantages to the DTS mods are: 1) Swashplate is more precise now, hardly any CCPM interaction due to slop. 2) The heli is much lighter after the mod with the removal of 4 linkage rods, 3 bellcrank levels, 6 bearings and abit of the frame material. 3) Option of mounting the Lipo on the upper part of the frame thus improving the roll characteristics of the heli as the cg is closer inline with the tail boom. 4) Cheap to carry out, the E352 mounts (Alternative method only) costs only $5.20 and is the only item you'll need. I believe this is the most "bang for the buck" anything that I have ever done. 5) The helis now flies very precisely, there is no pitching during forwards, punchups are vertical (not slewing to the side as previously) and the heli seems to be a little more agile (due to the weight reduction)

04-04-2008, 06:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
CodeB4U Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2008	I have the E325 servo holders. Can you take a better picture of where you mounted them? Maybe an outline of the holder and the body? Picture is too dark, it's hard to distinguish what is what and where you used the screws to mount them.

04-04-2008, 06:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
DierWolf My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2007	Its Trial and Error, mount your servo on the Servo Base and find where the link is the straightest to the swash with the servo arm at 90 degrees... Thats where you mount it to the frame

04-04-2008, 08:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
DexRast Join Date: Jan 2008	can anyone point me in the direction of the servo mounts, ive checked ebay and various other searches and cant find them anywhere, thanks in advance

04-04-2008, 09:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
DierWolf My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2007	Sorry the new crew should have thought of that But we were so oppressed with not being allowed to post links to sites we forgot. Servo Tray your looking for is for the Mini Titan E325.. This site has some. http://www.eboyztoyz.net/index.php?op=showitem&sku=8181

04-06-2008, 09:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
$$shane$$ Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	Anyone ever seen a DTS mod on a carbon Belt frame?

04-06-2008, 09:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
DierWolf My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2007	Not yet, and personally i would not do it with that frame... Unless you want to experiment that is.

04-06-2008, 09:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
$$shane$$ Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	My frame should show up in about a week and a half. I'll do some measuring and 'fiddling' and post my results.

04-07-2008, 07:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
DierWolf My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2007	It can be done, just i dont trust Esky's single direction weave of the carbon fiber that much. You can do it the way they have it on the King II, look up some pictures of its carbon fiber frame and you will see how the 2 servo's are mounted at the rear and the one up front on the side. God only knows why they would switch from direct to swash to links on a newer bird.

04-08-2008, 08:01 AM	#16 (permalink)
DierWolf My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2007	Look at the side rib right at the center of the frame in line with the shaft. There is a High ridge then lower section then back up to a high ridge again... cut away up to the 2nd high ridge, leaving the ridge there, that should allow enough space for the servo arm and also keep the servo from touching the shaft. Again the servo acts as a replacement beam so really no additional strengthening is needed, ifyou want to add you can do it right at that section the same way you did the bracing for the back 2 servos.

04-08-2008, 11:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
helihathnofury Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008	What's this? Some form of mutual admiration society? Wouldn't be allowed on the 'other' forum !!! __________________ Happy Heli-days !!!!!!!! Skip T-Rex 450Sport, T-Rex 500ESP, T-Rex 600NSP FBL, OS55, MicroBeastX Plus, Futaba 14SG,

04-08-2008, 11:32 AM	#20 (permalink)
Ber60 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008	HaHaHa THANKS Thanks LOL Man I still love it __________________ Anything that flies

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