1.1.015 Firmware and 1.1.006 Software is Officially Released!

[mtuccio]

Originally Posted by Greg B

After updating my iKON software and firmware I see the governor spool up ramp
only has three positions on the slider bar. Starts at 1 left side of slider then 2 middle of slider and 3 right side of slider. Is this correct just a three position adjustment for spool up ramp?

What you are seeing on the spool up ramp is correct and there are only 3 selections available.

[KU-HELI7]

Originally Posted by Jason O'Connell

I have always wondered about this step. I thought it was a "cyclic ring" so to speak to prevent binding in the corners. Should my cyclic pitch be set to specific number?


Thanks,
Jason

According this post of Thomas 10 degree should be correct.

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=4447362

Hopefully Thomas give a short comment on that.

Regards
Helmut

[joanpeca]

Originally Posted by extrapilot

Jose

Can you tell me- does this only happen with one servo on the system? Your note suggests it may happen to more than one, so I assume it is random. Does it seem to happen in a statistically valid sequence, where if 1 servo fails every 6 restarts, you may have 2 fail every 36 starts, etc?

I ask because I have hardware that can simulate all forms of startup conditions, and I just need a little more understanding of the symptom. Once we identify the cause, then it will be easier for Thomas to address.

Does the fail servo simply not move with input? Does it seem to be active (is it holding position, or can you rotate it as if it were not powered)?

Bravo Alonso for his China GP victory!

Regards-

Hi extrapilot! I haven't noticed any fixed pattern. The servo that more often fails is number two, but at least once failed servo number one, another time failed all three cyclic servos simultaneously, and tail servo also failed once. When a servo fails, didn't check if it can be moved, I will take this into account for next time. About how often a failure occurss, I have neither noticed any pattern: I had two failures when testing the unit after I purchased it, but, after dozens of flights without problems, I relaxed with performing checks before taking off... until a failure occured and the bird crashed . From then on, I always make the checks after powering on the unit, and more o less, I am having a failure every six flights, but not exact.

I can fly this weekend with the old firmware and try to gather more information... or update to new firmware and see what happens... what you consider more interesting.

Ah, I don't follow GP, so, did Alonso a good race? Glad for him!
Regards,

Jose A.

[DannyvG]

Originally Posted by mtuccio

If bailout is active in your current flight mode and you land in a normal fashion:

• Land the heli as you normally would.
• Hit throttle hold (this will start the bailout timer so the "hot start" condition exists)
• Change the Brain / Ikon flight mode (Setup 1, Setup 2, or Setup 3) from the current flight mode to any other flight mode (this will reset the bailout timer so the unit is now using the soft start profile on the motor)
• It is now safe to approach the model (no "hot start" condition exists anymore)

So there is no "idle during bailout" option which in turn will cause the softstart of the esc be active again or give possible problems when trying to bailout while the motor is still turning?
Because if I remember correctly with the vbar there is the option of idle during bailout to counter these specific issues.

[Dmaxison]

Originally Posted by djamgils

So there is no "idle during bailout" option which in turn will cause the softstart of the esc be active again or give possible problems when trying to bailout while the motor is still turning?
Because if I remember correctly with the vbar there is the option of idle during bailout to counter these specific issues.

I think what you're saying is that the heli rotor will continue to spin at a low hs while in bailout mode???
I've essentially done that on the old firmware by assigning a separate switch to control a low idle limit in my throttle curves (nitro intended option). This is a feature built in the Futaba 8fgs. This allowed me to keep the motor running which in turn kept the spoolup from resetting. The important part was to use the throttle limit switch to perform autos. Once on the ground I would activate TH which would reset the spoolup condition. Then back to normal, wait for spoolup to begin...5-10 seconds... then spoolup and fly. If I needed to bailout out i would just turn the throttle limit off which would restore the heli to the set HS without the spoolup delay. I did reduce the gains to keep from strpping gears. It was a good work around at the time.

The new firmware will still allow me to run this way so I might just leave it alone.

Having this built in the Ikon/Brain just adds a completely new dynamic. I'm glad to see the current refinements and quite satisfied with the changes. Thanks Thomas and the rest of the MSH group!

[andersn]

is the 10-15 second waiting for spoolup gone with new firmware?

[HeliBenj]

Not on mine! More like 5 seconds though, can live with it.
I also have an overshoot when first trying to achieve set RPM. After all is good. This is with a YEP ESC with the YGE external gov trick where you get a heli soft start and then fastest possible response

[EricW]

enabled the bailout in a bank and did some bench testing.
not sure what i'm doing wrong, but the green led is not blinking during TH.
the very first startup i now have a delay of 3 seconds before the spoolup starts.
and after that, the ramp up still seems slow during bailout...(bailout ramp @5, where i wonder if it works)

[topgear1979]

bailout:

Everything should be setup correctly.
is it normal that i can not see the green status LED blinking when i activate throttle hold on the bench?
Dos it need a certain rpm before it can get activated?

Thanks in advance :-)

[mtuccio]

Originally Posted by andersn

is the 10-15 second waiting for spoolup gone with new firmware?

Sounds like your 0 throttle limit (In Brain / Ikon) is set wrong. I would try raising this up a bit and verify that the ESC will still arm when a battery is plugged in. What ESC are you using?

[Dmaxison]

Top gear...

I would think you will need to spool it up till the gov engages. Then flip on TH. Green led should be blinking. Once the timer resets the led should return to flight mode identification status. Or if you change flight mode during bailout, the feature resets back to regular spool up.

[mtuccio]

Originally Posted by topgear1979

bailout:

Everything should be setup correctly.
is it normal that i can not see the green status LED blinking when i activate throttle hold on the bench?
Dos it need a certain rpm before it can get activated?

Thanks in advance :-)

If the LED is not blinking then the bailout timer is not working. What is your TH curve set at in the radio? Is this Nitro or Electric?

[mtuccio]

Originally Posted by Dmaxison

Top gear...

I would think you will need to spool it up till the gov engages. Then flip on TH. Green led should be blinking. Once the timer resets the led should return to flight mode identification status. Or if you change flight mode during bailout, the feature resets back to regular spool up.

+1 to this.

The governor engage signal must be seen to activate the bailout function.

Thanks....

[wingbreaker]

Did the new update make it so that sport mode defaults gyro to rate mode? for some reason my first setting (normal with sport icon selected) only does rate mode now. Where as before all my switch positions were HH.

[mtuccio]

Originally Posted by HeliBenj

Not on mine! More like 5 seconds though, can live with it.
I also have an overshoot when first trying to achieve set RPM. After all is good. This is with a YEP ESC with the YGE external gov trick where you get a heli soft start and then fastest possible response

I would try and increase your 0 throttle limit in the Brain / Ikon. I was testing on a few different YGE units and even after teaching the end points in the ESC had to fine tune this in the Brain / Ikon. These helis now have virtually no delay before the blades start spinning.

Hope this helps...

[mtuccio]

Originally Posted by wingbreaker

Did the new update make it so that sport mode defaults gyro to rate mode? for some reason my first setting (normal with sport icon selected) only does rate mode now. Where as before all my switch positions were HH.

Not that I know of...I Have sent your post to Thomas to review....

[DannyvG]

Originally Posted by wingbreaker

Did the new update make it so that sport mode defaults gyro to rate mode? for some reason my first setting (normal with sport icon selected) only does rate mode now. Where as before all my switch positions were HH.

does it still show that HH is enabled but it acts like rate mode?
If so then copy setup 2 to 1. Somehow setup 1 sometimes acts like rate mode while it shouldnt.

[rossk]

just tried the update and it bricked the brain, no lights when I plug in now

[EricW]

From what I read now I have to do a complete new governor setup on my YGE.
Maybe some values are distorted during update.
Will try it tonight and see if it works.

[mtuccio]

Originally Posted by EricW

From what I read now I have to do a complete new governor setup on my YGE.
Maybe some values are distorted during update.
Will try it tonight and see if it works.

Which governor are you using? YGE or Brain?

This update wouldn't effect anything if you are using the YGE governor.

Let me know...