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Cameron_S · 01-13-2010, 07:47 PM

Very true, not sure if its really worth it.

Dr.Ben · 01-14-2010, 12:07 AM

If you had a 25+ lb AP or scale model, you could take advantage of the extra torque with big blades and still keep the current demands sensible with a modest headspeed. I these applications, the extra motor weight is pretty well a moot point. In a 700 class 3D or even FAI model, I'd have to see logger data to prove that the promised extra power is a reasonably trade off for pushing 10% more model weight from heavier motor and the potential loss of run time from greater current demands at the RPM's we want to turn.

In defense of Scorpion, they tend to test stuff pretty well before release, so it would be hard for me to believe that they would release a motor for 700 class models that was an utter power hog.

Ben Minor

helicraze · 01-14-2010, 06:09 AM

Hmmm wonder what heli you can fit this in, not in a TDR, or stretched logo 700 unless you file the frames ALOT and weaken them!

Cameron_S · 01-14-2010, 10:27 PM

After looking over this motor it really doesn't weigh much more than a 4035 scorpion motor, 10 grams.

I am really considering it. Hmm decisions decisions.

Does anyone know if the KDE motor mounts will fit in place of the RJX motor mount, same width but do they mount up distance wise the same.

If so I think a KDE motor mount with 30mm spacing will work just off setting the mounting holes by 11mm. The motor mount would also need to be flipped over because the motor is so wide that would hit the lip, L that the motor mount has.

QYT001 · 01-15-2010, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameron_S

After looking over this motor it really doesn't weigh much more than a 4035 scorpion motor, 10 grams.

I am really considering it. Hmm decisions decisions.

Does anyone know if the KDE motor mounts will fit in place of the RJX motor mount, same width but do they mount up distance wise the same.

If so I think a KDE motor mount with 30mm spacing will work just off setting the mounting holes by 11mm. The motor mount would also need to be flipped over because the motor is so wide that would hit the lip, L that the motor mount has.

Awaiting for your report on the motor Boss!!!

Dogdocphil · 01-16-2010, 06:57 AM

Yes Cameron, go for it! Somone has to be the first! I want a full report

mu300pilot · 01-16-2010, 08:20 AM

The 4035-560 is plenty of power for any thing you want and it drops in. Why would you want something diff.?

I also get 7 mins flight time.

bpd964 · 01-16-2010, 08:31 AM

I get about 7 minutes of flight time with plenty of power with my 4035-560 as well.. Not sure if I want to make my ship any heavier than it already is..

But heck, if you are going to try it, I'd like to see it..

mu300pilot · 01-16-2010, 09:57 AM

Mine is 11.2lbs RTF.

Hey I'm with you if any one wants to try it I would like to see a report.

QYT001 · 01-16-2010, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpd964

I get about 7 minutes of flight time with plenty of power with my 4035-560 as well.. Not sure if I want to make my ship any heavier than it already is..

But heck, if you are going to try it, I'd like to see it..

HK520-450 is 445 grams, HK435-560 is 444 grams, it's the same almost

ADHDJeff · 01-16-2010, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameron_S

Does anyone know if the KDE motor mounts will fit in place of the RJX motor mount, same width but do they mount up distance wise the same.

I have both the KDE and RJX mount and held them up side-by-side and the spacing seems identical for both the mount and holes. The KDE has 6 screw holes for the frame and 4 for the motor while the JRX has 4 for the frame and 2 for the motor. The KDE is also 15 grams lighter.

Cameron_S · 01-16-2010, 07:04 PM

Thanks Jeff that is what I wanted to hear. I think I might have a motor on backorder soon.

QYT001 · 01-17-2010, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADHDJeff

I have both the KDE and RJX mount and held them up side-by-side and the spacing seems identical for both the mount and holes. The KDE has 6 screw holes for the frame and 4 for the motor while the JRX has 4 for the frame and 2 for the motor. The KDE is also 15 grams lighter.

Where can I find the info about RJX motor mount?

mu300pilot · 01-19-2010, 05:27 AM

I talk with Scorpion yesterday, I was told that this motor is for those doing scale, camer pts or those strecthing there ships to 800 blades. I was then told that if you want to do all out 3d that the 4035-560 was the better motor for that.

With that said, I'll keep flying my 4035. I am waiting to hear what people think of this motor in flight.

QYT001 · 01-19-2010, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mu300pilot

I talk with Scorpion yesterday, I was told that this motor is for those doing scale, camer pts or those strecthing there ships to 800 blades. I was then told that if you want to do all out 3d that the 4035-560 was the better motor for that.

With that said, I'll keep flying my 4035. I am waiting to hear what people think of this motor in flight.

Are you talking about Scorpion HK-5035-500 or Scorpion HK-5020-450?

mu300pilot · 01-20-2010, 05:33 AM

I am talking about 5020 motors, is there a 5045?

QYT001 · 02-03-2010, 08:44 AM

I'm just awaiting for somebody's Scorpion HK-5020-450KV review.
Did anyone install it?

Cameron_S · 02-03-2010, 08:56 AM

I am not doing an install I am going with the KDE motor when it releases. Should fit without any mods and will probably work better too.

Vom Feinsten · 02-03-2010, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QYT001

I'm just awaiting for somebody's Scorpion HK-5020-450KV review.
Did anyone install it?

I think its not aviable yet?
As soon as it is I will buy one to test on my Suzi hans conversion

Regards Janis

QYT001 · 02-03-2010, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vom Feinsten

I think its not aviable yet?
As soon as it is I will buy one to test on my Suzi hans conversion

Regards Janis

3770 Watts / 5320 Watts (5 seconds) will make you the E-heli king

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01-13-2010, 07:47 PM	#21 (permalink)
Cameron_S Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2007	Very true, not sure if its really worth it.

01-14-2010, 12:07 AM	#22 (permalink)
Dr.Ben Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004	If you had a 25+ lb AP or scale model, you could take advantage of the extra torque with big blades and still keep the current demands sensible with a modest headspeed. I these applications, the extra motor weight is pretty well a moot point. In a 700 class 3D or even FAI model, I'd have to see logger data to prove that the promised extra power is a reasonably trade off for pushing 10% more model weight from heavier motor and the potential loss of run time from greater current demands at the RPM's we want to turn. In defense of Scorpion, they tend to test stuff pretty well before release, so it would be hard for me to believe that they would release a motor for 700 class models that was an utter power hog. Ben Minor

01-14-2010, 06:09 AM	#23 (permalink)
helicraze Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2008	Hmmm wonder what heli you can fit this in, not in a TDR, or stretched logo 700 unless you file the frames ALOT and weaken them!

01-14-2010, 10:27 PM	#24 (permalink)
Cameron_S Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2007	After looking over this motor it really doesn't weigh much more than a 4035 scorpion motor, 10 grams. I am really considering it. Hmm decisions decisions. Does anyone know if the KDE motor mounts will fit in place of the RJX motor mount, same width but do they mount up distance wise the same. If so I think a KDE motor mount with 30mm spacing will work just off setting the mounting holes by 11mm. The motor mount would also need to be flipped over because the motor is so wide that would hit the lip, L that the motor mount has.

01-16-2010, 06:57 AM	#26 (permalink)
Dogdocphil Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2006	Yes Cameron, go for it! Somone has to be the first! I want a full report

01-16-2010, 08:20 AM	#27 (permalink)
mu300pilot Join Date: Dec 2008	The 4035-560 is plenty of power for any thing you want and it drops in. Why would you want something diff.? I also get 7 mins flight time.

01-16-2010, 08:31 AM	#28 (permalink)
bpd964 Team Taco Member My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Thailand	I get about 7 minutes of flight time with plenty of power with my 4035-560 as well.. Not sure if I want to make my ship any heavier than it already is.. But heck, if you are going to try it, I'd like to see it..

01-16-2010, 09:57 AM	#29 (permalink)
mu300pilot Join Date: Dec 2008	Mine is 11.2lbs RTF. Hey I'm with you if any one wants to try it I would like to see a report.

01-16-2010, 07:04 PM	#32 (permalink)
Cameron_S Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2007	Thanks Jeff that is what I wanted to hear. I think I might have a motor on backorder soon.

01-19-2010, 05:27 AM	#34 (permalink)
mu300pilot Join Date: Dec 2008	I talk with Scorpion yesterday, I was told that this motor is for those doing scale, camer pts or those strecthing there ships to 800 blades. I was then told that if you want to do all out 3d that the 4035-560 was the better motor for that. With that said, I'll keep flying my 4035. I am waiting to hear what people think of this motor in flight.

01-20-2010, 05:33 AM	#36 (permalink)
mu300pilot Join Date: Dec 2008	I am talking about 5020 motors, is there a 5045?

02-03-2010, 08:56 AM	#38 (permalink)
Cameron_S Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2007	I am not doing an install I am going with the KDE motor when it releases. Should fit without any mods and will probably work better too.

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