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belgoheli · 03-01-2012, 02:26 AM

Do you mean - 108 throttle ATV or on the slider in gov II?

Belgo

MrMel · 03-01-2012, 02:30 AM

Motor OFF slider in Governor II
But do not set "-108" without checking, Its "Lowest value without delay when going out of hold" you want.

If you get a delay, raise it.

Andyzboy · 03-01-2012, 02:37 AM

Awesome! That looked great, nice maiden dude

belgoheli · 03-01-2012, 04:22 AM

@ Frederic:
many thanks for your quick reply.
In fact my query refers to a statement from Joe 1 at the YGE forum
Thread called "YGE Gov vbar setings?" page 2 dated 02 feb , 05.01 pm

Basically he's saying that extendeding throttle ATV gives more resolution.

Would you agree with his procedure??

Belgo

MrMel · 03-01-2012, 04:28 AM

It has nothing to do with the resolution really (or rather, its not my point here),

The VBar JUMPS when it starts on the throttle signal from X -> Y
If Y is too high = harsh start.

You want Y to be as low as possible but without delay, if you get it too low it will not be good.
See my Electric Governor Remake video if you want more details.

belgoheli · 03-01-2012, 05:52 AM

Thanks Frederic,

I've looked your vid twice. Most helpful.

Belgo

PauloG · 03-01-2012, 06:36 AM

Awesome !!!

supa koopa · 03-01-2012, 08:25 AM

Mine is also set at -108 and is a very acceptable soft start.

Big Fil · 03-01-2012, 01:13 PM

Good points, i'm going to recheck mine again tonight to verify. When I originally did it I wasn't really watching the numbers, just moving the sliders until I got what I thought was no delay.

MrMel · 03-01-2012, 01:19 PM

Its no delay coming out of hold, not old style move slider until start

Big Fil · 03-01-2012, 11:05 PM

OK Fredrik, just went back and rechecked my start up delay and the least amount of delay was actually at -95% anything higher and the motor would continue to idle. Went and rechecked that my throttle calibration was correct and it is. So any idea why we are seeing a discrepancy between the numbers? Seems like most are ending up where you did at -108%. I usually don't get too hung up on the actual numbers as long as it works, but I am curious.

BTW, I am running Spektrum. 104 on travel adjust with no subtrim. 100/0/-100 in the calibration screen.

Nko15 · 03-02-2012, 06:36 AM

he is talking about delay from the start point. like you hit th hold off(motor runs). it shouldnt have a pause before starting to spin.

MrMel · 03-02-2012, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fil

OK Fredrik, just went back and rechecked my start up delay and the least amount of delay was actually at -95% anything higher and the motor would continue to idle. Went and rechecked that my throttle calibration was correct and it is. So any idea why we are seeing a discrepancy between the numbers? Seems like most are ending up where you did at -108%. I usually don't get too hung up on the actual numbers as long as it works, but I am curious.

BTW, I am running Spektrum. 104 on travel adjust with no subtrim. 100/0/-100 in the calibration screen.

I still think you do it wrong way (old way of calibrating) which was good for 5.1 but NOT 5.2

Please check 7:28 in this video
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMWJzsnKbBI[/ame]

Big Fil · 03-02-2012, 08:03 AM

That is exactly how I did it, by using throttle hold. Anything lower and I was adding delay while flipping out of TH. At -108 the delay was very long.

MrMel · 03-02-2012, 08:05 AM

Might be the endpoints that has been re-programmed.
Here is info from XX forum how to redo the ESC endpoint programming if needed.

Quote:

This is a procedure to discover accidentially manipulated endpoints and to set them right again:

How the problem can be discovered:
The value of the preset channel climbs up after turning the motor on. Preset RPM should be set to more than 1200 1/min
ESC is connected with the RX cable to the right port according to the settings in GOV1
The yellow LED on the YGE ESC doesn't flicker altough it should do so during the throttle output to the ESC climbs up

LED coditions:
LED on = motor off
LED flickers = motor running in idle
LED off = motor at full throttle

If the LED show motor off or turns to idle very late do as follows:
Umount all blades
Power up Vbar with a external RC power source
Flight battery is NOT connected to the ESC!
After init go to GOV2
Set the collective stick on TX to full positive
Activate the collective control in GOV2
Connect flight battery
As soon as the "beeps" can be herared from the YGE set collective stick to full negative
Wait until all tones went through (silence)
The esc is now armed and the settings can be checked with the collective stick.
If the motor turns on after a small stick movement everything is ok.

OnTheSnap · 03-02-2012, 09:12 AM

Congrats Fil! I need to drive up and visit you guys..

Big Fil · 03-02-2012, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMel

Might be the endpoints that has been re-programmed.
Here is info from XX forum how to redo the ESC endpoint programming if needed.

Will try to re-program endpoints this evening. Thanks.

03-01-2012, 02:30 AM	#22 (permalink)
MrMel Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2005	Motor OFF slider in Governor II But do not set "-108" without checking, Its "Lowest value without delay when going out of hold" you want. If you get a delay, raise it. __________________ Gone fishing.. or hunting or something.. http://heli.dacsa.net

03-01-2012, 04:28 AM	#25 (permalink)
MrMel Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2005	It has nothing to do with the resolution really (or rather, its not my point here), The VBar JUMPS when it starts on the throttle signal from X -> Y If Y is too high = harsh start. You want Y to be as low as possible but without delay, if you get it too low it will not be good. See my Electric Governor Remake video if you want more details. __________________ Gone fishing.. or hunting or something.. http://heli.dacsa.net

03-01-2012, 06:36 AM	#27 (permalink)
PauloG Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2011	Awesome !!! __________________ Goblin 700, Goblin 380, Gaui NX7, T-Rex 700N, T-Rex 450 iKon, because I am connected to my heli. Are you connected to yours? RCHN #15

03-01-2012, 01:13 PM	#29 (permalink)
Big Fil Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2007	Good points, i'm going to recheck mine again tonight to verify. When I originally did it I wasn't really watching the numbers, just moving the sliders until I got what I thought was no delay. __________________ Mikado Model Helicopters Edge Blades

03-01-2012, 01:19 PM	#30 (permalink)
MrMel Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2005	Its no delay coming out of hold, not old style move slider until start __________________ Gone fishing.. or hunting or something.. http://heli.dacsa.net

03-01-2012, 02:26 AM	#21 (permalink)
belgoheli Registered Users Join Date: May 2011	Do you mean - 108 throttle ATV or on the slider in gov II? Belgo

03-01-2012, 02:37 AM	#23 (permalink)
Andyzboy Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2009	Awesome! That looked great, nice maiden dude

03-01-2012, 04:22 AM	#24 (permalink)
belgoheli Registered Users Join Date: May 2011	@ Frederic: many thanks for your quick reply. In fact my query refers to a statement from Joe 1 at the YGE forum Thread called "YGE Gov vbar setings?" page 2 dated 02 feb , 05.01 pm Basically he's saying that extendeding throttle ATV gives more resolution. Would you agree with his procedure?? Belgo

03-01-2012, 05:52 AM	#26 (permalink)
belgoheli Registered Users Join Date: May 2011	Thanks Frederic, I've looked your vid twice. Most helpful. Belgo

03-01-2012, 08:25 AM	#28 (permalink)
supa koopa Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2006	Mine is also set at -108 and is a very acceptable soft start.

03-01-2012, 11:05 PM	#31 (permalink)
Big Fil Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2007	OK Fredrik, just went back and rechecked my start up delay and the least amount of delay was actually at -95% anything higher and the motor would continue to idle. Went and rechecked that my throttle calibration was correct and it is. So any idea why we are seeing a discrepancy between the numbers? Seems like most are ending up where you did at -108%. I usually don't get too hung up on the actual numbers as long as it works, but I am curious. BTW, I am running Spektrum. 104 on travel adjust with no subtrim. 100/0/-100 in the calibration screen. __________________ Mikado Model Helicopters Edge Blades

03-02-2012, 06:36 AM	#32 (permalink)
Nko15 Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010	he is talking about delay from the start point. like you hit th hold off(motor runs). it shouldnt have a pause before starting to spin. __________________ Designing/Building the HEX Helicopters Sponsored by Gens Ace Batteries, Gryphon Rotorblades, RCbearings.co.uk,

03-02-2012, 08:03 AM	#34 (permalink)
Big Fil Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2007	That is exactly how I did it, by using throttle hold. Anything lower and I was adding delay while flipping out of TH. At -108 the delay was very long. __________________ Mikado Model Helicopters Edge Blades

03-02-2012, 09:12 AM	#36 (permalink)
OnTheSnap Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NorCal	Congrats Fil! I need to drive up and visit you guys.. __________________ Xpert Scorpion Power Systems Helidirect

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