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jabu32 · 04-09-2012, 07:35 AM

im looking into converting to FBL. i think im going to purchase the tarot fbl unit (are the copterx better?) and saw that there are two models. the -S is the newer on i guess but i dont know what the difference is. Anyone? thanks

atlny · 04-09-2012, 10:25 AM

I believe one uses satellite and the other use a full receiver

jabu32 · 04-09-2012, 02:33 PM

any benefit getting the -s version other then that?

atlny · 04-09-2012, 08:33 PM

a cleaner setup less wire

jabu32 · 04-10-2012, 07:56 AM

is it enough to just use a satellite? can you use a full size rx still?

atlny · 04-10-2012, 10:33 AM

The satellite should be fine as long as you mount them correctly
If u want to use a full RX just get the zyx not the -s
I like the -s because it would be less wires But it's too late for me
What's sIze is your heli also if u are using a DX6i you might have do the full RX setup
If it's anything like the 3gx the gain is map throught channel 7

jabu32 · 04-10-2012, 11:14 AM

well that answers that. i have a dx6i and going to use it on a 400.

atlny · 04-10-2012, 12:40 PM

Well, you are ahead. I found this out after I have bought the satellite and spend hours trying to get it to work

Harbormaster · 04-11-2012, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atlny

if u are using a DX6i you might have do the full RX setup

I have both JR and Spektrum satellites working with a DX6i with no trouble at all. Plug and Play!

atlny · 04-11-2012, 05:39 AM

I guess it's not like the 3gx then

jabu32 · 04-11-2012, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbormaster

I have both JR and Spektrum satellites working with a DX6i with no trouble at all. Plug and Play!

are you using the satellite along with the full receiver?

ausi1972 · 05-05-2012, 02:07 AM

If you want to use the satellite with the Zyx-S then you need to bind your radio (Dx6i works fine) with a full Rx with the satellite plugged into it, then remove the satellite from the full Rx and plug it into the Zyx-S with the special cable that you have to buy separately.

Also the Zyx-S can control planes and quadcopters as well, so they are well worth the extra couple of bucks.

averhamdave · 05-05-2012, 12:29 PM

Sory but I'm struggling to undersatnd!

The ZYX is a FBL gyro system, OK?

The ZYX-S is a FBL system with built in RX? - Like a V Bar?

I was going to ask the same question as the OP. I have a new ZYX on my 450 PRO and just can't praise it enough. It has no Sattelite socket so will be a ZYX, right?

If I bought a ZYX-S, I wouldn't need a receiver as well?

Thanks, Dave

Vinger · 05-06-2012, 11:28 PM

The -S version can accommodate a satellite RX via a special lead that plugs into one of the normal RX leads on the unit. It does NOT have any RX built in. You can still use a standard RX with it as well. Supports aircraft and quad copters.

or normal RX

Support aircraft and quads

The standard version can only be connected to an external RX via the fly leads. Only supports helicopters.

Jazzjohn · 07-06-2012, 12:54 PM

Vinger,
Which software are your screenshots from?
I downloaded the latest stable version from http://fbl.net.nz but it doesn't have the plank and quad stuff in it.
Thanks.

drdispatch · 07-06-2012, 01:07 PM

Looks interesting - are these gyros performing well?

Sorry to hijack - I was literally just thinking about getting one of these units for a junk 450.

1275mini · 07-08-2012, 02:07 PM

just ordered a xyz -s and satellite lead for my trex 500/dx18 where can i download the pc software as above ?

Dr. M · 07-08-2012, 11:21 PM

All you would ever want to know about these systems is referenced in the first post of this thread:
https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=414428

Sorry, I know there's a lot of reading to do, but I can't think of any other way to convey this huge mass of information.

petedee · 07-09-2012, 05:36 AM

The ZYX-S can use either a full radio or just a satellite and can also do quads as well.

1275mini · 07-09-2012, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petedee

The ZYX-S can use either a full radio or just a satellite and can also do quads as well.

That what i like to hear !!!

04-09-2012, 07:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
jabu32 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2011	Tarot ZYX-S or ZYX?? whats the difference? im looking into converting to FBL. i think im going to purchase the tarot fbl unit (are the copterx better?) and saw that there are two models. the -S is the newer on i guess but i dont know what the difference is. Anyone? thanks __________________ Hello My Name Is Joe Blade 130X - Lynx EOX / Blade 300x - AR7200BX, 2213-3585 / Trex 500ESP DFC - AR7200BX, 500MX / Trex 550e DFC - AR7200BX, 600MX / TSA 600e Pro - AR7200BX, 700MX / TBS Discovery FPV - APM, Sunnysky 980kv/ DX8

04-09-2012, 10:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
atlny Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011	I believe one uses satellite and the other use a full receiver __________________ T-REX 500X, T-REX 600 PRO DFC,T-REX 550 DFC, T-REX 470L, T-REX 500L, T-REX 700X, DX9

04-09-2012, 02:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
jabu32 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2011	any benefit getting the -s version other then that? __________________ Hello My Name Is Joe Blade 130X - Lynx EOX / Blade 300x - AR7200BX, 2213-3585 / Trex 500ESP DFC - AR7200BX, 500MX / Trex 550e DFC - AR7200BX, 600MX / TSA 600e Pro - AR7200BX, 700MX / TBS Discovery FPV - APM, Sunnysky 980kv/ DX8

04-09-2012, 08:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
atlny Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011	a cleaner setup less wire __________________ T-REX 500X, T-REX 600 PRO DFC,T-REX 550 DFC, T-REX 470L, T-REX 500L, T-REX 700X, DX9

04-10-2012, 07:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
jabu32 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2011	is it enough to just use a satellite? can you use a full size rx still? __________________ Hello My Name Is Joe Blade 130X - Lynx EOX / Blade 300x - AR7200BX, 2213-3585 / Trex 500ESP DFC - AR7200BX, 500MX / Trex 550e DFC - AR7200BX, 600MX / TSA 600e Pro - AR7200BX, 700MX / TBS Discovery FPV - APM, Sunnysky 980kv/ DX8

04-10-2012, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
atlny Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011	The satellite should be fine as long as you mount them correctly If u want to use a full RX just get the zyx not the -s I like the -s because it would be less wires But it's too late for me What's sIze is your heli also if u are using a DX6i you might have do the full RX setup If it's anything like the 3gx the gain is map throught channel 7 __________________ T-REX 500X, T-REX 600 PRO DFC,T-REX 550 DFC, T-REX 470L, T-REX 500L, T-REX 700X, DX9

04-10-2012, 11:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
jabu32 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2011	well that answers that. i have a dx6i and going to use it on a 400. __________________ Hello My Name Is Joe Blade 130X - Lynx EOX / Blade 300x - AR7200BX, 2213-3585 / Trex 500ESP DFC - AR7200BX, 500MX / Trex 550e DFC - AR7200BX, 600MX / TSA 600e Pro - AR7200BX, 700MX / TBS Discovery FPV - APM, Sunnysky 980kv/ DX8

04-10-2012, 12:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
atlny Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011	Well, you are ahead. I found this out after I have bought the satellite and spend hours trying to get it to work __________________ T-REX 500X, T-REX 600 PRO DFC,T-REX 550 DFC, T-REX 470L, T-REX 500L, T-REX 700X, DX9

04-11-2012, 05:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
atlny Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011	I guess it's not like the 3gx then __________________ T-REX 500X, T-REX 600 PRO DFC,T-REX 550 DFC, T-REX 470L, T-REX 500L, T-REX 700X, DX9

05-05-2012, 02:07 AM	#12 (permalink)
ausi1972 Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2009	Zyx-S with satellite & for Quads If you want to use the satellite with the Zyx-S then you need to bind your radio (Dx6i works fine) with a full Rx with the satellite plugged into it, then remove the satellite from the full Rx and plug it into the Zyx-S with the special cable that you have to buy separately. Also the Zyx-S can control planes and quadcopters as well, so they are well worth the extra couple of bucks.

05-05-2012, 12:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
averhamdave Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2008	Sory but I'm struggling to undersatnd! The ZYX is a FBL gyro system, OK? The ZYX-S is a FBL system with built in RX? - Like a V Bar? I was going to ask the same question as the OP. I have a new ZYX on my 450 PRO and just can't praise it enough. It has no Sattelite socket so will be a ZYX, right? If I bought a ZYX-S, I wouldn't need a receiver as well? Thanks, Dave

05-06-2012, 11:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
Vinger Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2007	The -S version can accommodate a satellite RX via a special lead that plugs into one of the normal RX leads on the unit. It does NOT have any RX built in. You can still use a standard RX with it as well. Supports aircraft and quad copters. or normal RX Support aircraft and quads The standard version can only be connected to an external RX via the fly leads. Only supports helicopters. __________________ Henseleit TDR, TDR2, TDF, TDS, TDSF Kontronik, Scorpion ESC, iChargers, VBar, VControl Old hand at Planks Peter

07-06-2012, 12:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jazzjohn Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2010	Vinger, Which software are your screenshots from? I downloaded the latest stable version from http://fbl.net.nz but it doesn't have the plank and quad stuff in it. Thanks. __________________ V120D02S x 2 :: Mini Protos x 2 :: Align Trex150 :: Proto X nano quad Devo 6 with Deviation flies them all!

07-06-2012, 01:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
drdispatch Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2010	Looks interesting - are these gyros performing well? Sorry to hijack - I was literally just thinking about getting one of these units for a junk 450. __________________ Synergy N5c YS56, CGY750 Gaui X5 Vbar MSH Protos Vbar Blade 130X

07-08-2012, 02:07 PM	#17 (permalink)
1275mini Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2004	just ordered a xyz -s and satellite lead for my trex 500/dx18 where can i download the pc software as above ? __________________ Barry

07-08-2012, 11:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
Dr. M Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2011	All you would ever want to know about these systems is referenced in the first post of this thread: https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=414428 Sorry, I know there's a lot of reading to do, but I can't think of any other way to convey this huge mass of information. __________________ CopterX 450 Black Angel FBL "Night Rig" \| ZYX v4.0 PRÔTOS 500 FBL "Sky Whip" \| Robird G31 Audacity P6 FBL "Phoenix" \| MSH Brain \| 12s Goblin Speed \| iKon

07-09-2012, 05:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
petedee Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2011	The ZYX-S can use either a full radio or just a satellite and can also do quads as well. __________________ similis vobis fugere eam furatus "The beatings will continue until morale improves." -- William Bligh

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