Align Speed Fuselage

[ReadyToCrash]

How about the boom braces? Werent them never needed then?

[TheKingPhisher]

JR's implementation doesn't require boom braces so if Align follows JR's footsteps it should be fine.

[Trexwilly]

Well That settles it, I have to get a 700DFC now, so I can slam one of these on it and go piss off every Goblin fanboy in the area! "PS that's a lot of fanboys"

[Soccerjay]

Originally Posted by Trexwilly

Well That settles it, I have to get a 700DFC now, so I can slam one of these on it and go piss off every Goblin fanboy in the area! "PS that's a lot of fanboys"

Lol aka every guy at the field i know


Sent from my Goblin 125 using SAB

[Xrayted]

Originally Posted by Trexwilly

Well That settles it, I have to get a 700DFC now, so I can slam one of these on it and go piss off every Goblin fanboy in the area! "PS that's a lot of fanboys"

You can also put lipstick on a pig and take it to the prom but...........

Of course I will getting one of these for my 500 as soon as they are available.

[ReadyToCrash]

the boom braces, the boom braces!
the tail will vibrate until it dismantles down.

[Soccerjay]

When is this coming out?


Sent from my Goblin 125 using SAB

[Excalibur3]

You know I've been putting some thought into this product. At first I thought it was pretty cool. and actually it is, but problem for me is "crash cost" its gonna go sky high with this set up.
Think about in the event of needing to rekit you would have to strap an extra $300 or so on top. Ouch!
Solution would be if the new combo kits are gonna come equipped with the speed set up. Hopefully fingers crossed.


TS3D#1
NanoCPXBL,TREX550PRODFC,
TREX700PRODFCHV, DX8

[tdf1946]

Well the crash cost on a Goblin is high but it's on par with that class of heli... That's the modern day price we pay for today's market.

[Excalibur3]

Yeah that's why I don't fly goblins. I can rekit my 700 pro for the same as a goblin 500. I'm not trying to hear that. At this stage in my abilities price plays a big role in my decision as does durability and over all quality. Actually I could rekit my 700 & 550 for the same as a goblin 700. ;(


TS3D#1
NanoCPXBL,TREX550PRODFC,
TREX700PRODFCHV, DX8

[foolforspeed]

Personally I don't buy a kit to crash it. I buy to fly.

I like the new Align Speed and I also hope more manufacturers join in on the wrap around canopies and bigger booms. It makes for better visibility and definitely looks cool. It's alright that SAB did it first, after all somebody had to. But that doesn't mean nobody else is allowed to do it.

Kenny Ho rocks, but I understand where some of these complainers are coming from. I get a little tired of watching nothing but 3D. Not that there's anything wrong with that style but there are other styles of flying. I saw a vid of Alan Szabo flying 3D with a Shark. That body is designed for F3C and I enjoy watching that style.

[Heliguy3D]

Would be good to know if they gear the tail any different to have more power. Maybe it will need longer tail blades like the Goblins

[tdf1946]

Dont get me wrong i like the new wrap around kit but as far as replacement comparison its not that far off from most of the kits of today, i had to almost rekit my 550 DFC after running into a tree and i was amazed of how things like blade grip links and torque tube ,booms etc.. added up pretty quickly in price compaison it wasnt that far off but it is what it is..I dont buy a kit to crash either but when trying a new move things do get carried away and stationary objects do get in the way.Heck the price of the main gear on that 550 DFC wasnt nothing to sneeze at i think 25.00 + tax mikado logo 700 main gear around 25.00,goblin main gear 35.00 so as we see ALIGN spare parts are on par with todays market

[Atomic Skull]

Originally Posted by TheKingPhisher

JR's implementation doesn't require boom braces so if Align follows JR's footsteps it should be fine.

Every implementation that doesn't need boom supports (Compass, JR, Avant) uses a large diameter tailboom to compensate. So for this to work Align will need to offer an upgraded boom mount and tail gearbox to support the new larger diameter boom.

It's not about whether the boom will break it's about the tail vibrating. The Align tail system has enough problems with vibrations as it is with the wobbly bevel gears, they don't need to add more vibrations on top of that.

[seefest]

Originally Posted by Atomic Skull

Every implementation that doesn't need boom supports (Compass, JR, Avant) uses a large diameter tailboom to compensate. So for this to work Align will need to offer an upgraded boom mount and tail gearbox to support the new larger diameter boom.

It's not about whether the boom will break it's about the tail vibrating. The Align tail system has enough problems with vibrations as it is with the wobbly bevel gears, they don't need to add more vibrations on top of that.

It doesn't need a larger diameter boom. The speed heli guys have been putting tail boom fairings over existing tail boom/braces for years. (Removing the braces)
TDR and Diabolo to name two.
It can be done successfully.............

[ReadyToCrash]

nobody buys anything to crash, but crashes simply happen. haven't you ever crashed? it doesn't need to be a new stunt, but a mechanical failure like my tail linkage popping off the ball this week.
unfortunately, and again, people is giving too much attention to the looks instead of more important things. this new canopy is pretty, but will be expensive, will add a lot of weight to the heli and will start to crack and scratch since day one.

[seefest]

[mkovalcson]

Originally Posted by seefest

It doesn't need a larger diameter boom. The speed heli guys have been putting tail boom fairings over existing tail boom/braces for years. (Removing the braces)
TDR and Diabolo to name two.
It can be done successfully.............

The key is that the shroud needs to offer all the additional reinforcement needed.

A Banshee has a 30mm CF boom and can be flown SMACK 3D without braces.

The TDV and Diabolo S have very rigid CF fuses that adds lots of additional strength. In fact in a recent crash with a TDV ( TDR with Velocity CF full fuse) the fuse wasn't damaged.

I would not recommend flying 3D with a Diabolo or TDR after the boom braces have been removed without additional reinforcement. The braces are there for a reason.

Keep in mind
The TDR has a 25mm aluminum boom
The Diabolo has a 30mm aluminum boom.
Align has a 21.5mm aluminum boom which needs structural reinforcement.

[Michaelinpr]

I saw somewhere a cut away image of the tail. It still had the boom supports. They were just relocated a bit to be closer to the boom. I can't find the link. I think it was on FB.

EDIT: I found another post but it didn't have the cut away shot. However it had the boom shroud off. I think I mistook the cf tail pitch rod for the boom supports.

[seefest]

Originally Posted by mkovalcson

The key is that the shroud needs to offer all the additional reinforcement needed.

A Banshee has a 30mm CF boom and can be flown SMACK 3D without braces.

The TDV and Diabolo S have very rigid CF fuses that adds lots of additional strength. In fact in a recent crash with a TDV ( TDR with Velocity CF full fuse) the fuse wasn't damaged.

I would not recommend flying 3D with a Diabolo or TDR after the boom braces have been removed without additional reinforcement. The braces are there for a reason.

Keep in mind
The TDR has a 25mm aluminum boom
The Diabolo has a 30mm aluminum boom.
Align has a 21.5mm aluminum boom which needs structural reinforcement.

I guess my picture didn't post above, but it was a detailed shot of Aligns new boom cover.
Its fully structural and mounts rigidly with 6 bolts on the frame. I didn't have a detailed shot of the tail rotor end however.