Share your 450 T-Rex Flybarless files and info here!!!

[Jake Mackey]

Thought I'd share this and see what you guys think! Finished the install on Friday. Was pretty easy except wiring the thing!








Sorry if the images aren't the best. I'll take some better ones on a nice sunny day out flying!

[OICU812]

Looks clean man

[Wizzard]

Originally Posted by OICU812

No one to my knowledge, Great Hobbies, Hobby Wholesale both in Edmonton, Alberta both do. They have websites and you can call in your orders, one day by bus is all it takes as well, cheers.

Hobby Alley in Edmonton carries a vast selection of Align parts as well...

[rcjpth]

Wanna flybarless without the elec stabi system? - YEP - you can buy the multi-blade 4 blade rotor head and no need electronic stabi system - again if you don't want to spend money on the elec stabi system while no 3d in flybarless - then buy the 4 blade rotor head

Originally Posted by sharks

But is it optional to install a stabilization system, is this required? And what are the benefits?

[VDFS]

Anyone have a vid?? I like to see this heli with FBL...

[JBuck]

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how great the Align flybarless setup is.

Anyone? Anyone?

[Jake Mackey]

Originally Posted by JBuck

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how great the Align flybarless setup is.

Anyone? Anyone?

I'm loving it! No problems so far.

It's a totally different feel while flying if your new to FBL. Which I am. But I'm getting used to it. And if flies freakin awesome! I'm loving it. It's so stable for just cruising it around. Tried a few 3D maneuvers with it (nothing too exciting) and was ok. Just need to tone the gain down slightly.

[Surfrjeff]

Jake that heli flies like a champ, and it is quite a bit quieter if i might add compared to the stock flybar setup.

[ghillie]

RCJPTH,

So you are saying that the 4 rotor head is as stable as a stock machine in flybarless design?

Can you use standard servos like on a flybarred machine?

What are the negatives then?

[HeloJoe]

Any thoughts on this? I note that the various heli shops are already selling the 600 Nitro and 700's with the FBL in the box. I gotta think that the rest of the lineup will certainly be shipping this way soon enough.

I'm wondering if the first all electric heli kit to get the FBL will be the 600 or the 450?

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Any "inside info" from Align and/or Assurance as to when we might be seeing a 450 Pro kit with the FBL in the box?

[demosa]

What kind of collective and cyclic pitch range do you guys setup with miniVBAR ?
Does it need to be more or less than when using the traditional flybar ?

Thanks !

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by demosa

What kind of collective and cyclic pitch range do you guys setup with miniVBAR ?
Does it need to be more or less than when using the traditional flybar ?

Thanks !

Collective same as you would say on a flybar, cyclic you tend to run 9-11 degrees, it is entirely different so you need that resolution to work with.

[Jake Mackey]

Here's a little video of my 450 Pro with the new 3G on it. Just getting a feel for it. I've never had any experience with flybarless helis. But I'm loving it so far!

[demosa]

Can someone that is using the mini VBAR on a 450 Pro comment on the servo horn length and the resulting "cyclic gain" calculation (via the "geometry tool" on the vstabi site).
With the "usual" servo horn length recommended by the 450 pro manual (i.e. 15mm or so, so that the links are straight up to the swashplate balls) the cyclic gain calculation gives me a pretty low value, 81 or something like that. This most likely means that the servo horn length on the Pro is pretty big which results in too much pitch range...
But if I reduce the servo horn length then my swash links will be "crooked".

Any comments please ? Never mind, I figured it out !
Tahnks !

[JBuck]

Skookum SK-720

Better then Align?

Says it replaces reviever. DX7?

Anyone?

Im thinking of going flybarless but not sure which to go with.

[VDFS]

If i buy these parts i transform my 450 with FBL head??

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product...oducts_id=3172

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product...oducts_id=3180

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product...oducts_id=3188


Is necessary buy other parts?

[Helipsyko]

I modded my stock Pro head for FBL use, did not like it!
Was very nervous and twitchy.
Recommend the RJX head, Im very happy with it.

http://www.helidirect.com/trex-450-p...ad-p-16799.hdx

[VDFS]

Why you do not like the head ALIGN (modded by you)?? The parts that i list is correct or i forget somethink?

[Helipsyko]

As mentioned, it was very nervous and twitchy.
Here is where I found the way to do it http://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/t5...hlight=450+fbl

But when I tried the RJX head it was like getting a totally new bird.

[bjosko]

Great thread !
I have just made a Pre Order for the SK 720, hopefully I have it in the end of April.

I have also bought the Mikado head and swash plate driver, and a pair of EDGE FBL main blades for mine, it should be here next week .

Where to put the controller, hm …. I have not made up my mind yet, I think that KDE – thing look so huge on the PRO, I hope there would be room enough to put my controller under the bottom plate.
I already have the SK 360 installed in another –not-at-the-moment-flying -bird, it could very well be that I start playing with that in my PRO