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05-08-2011, 07:29 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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clutches,TT,and my 2 cents
I was reading some posts on a Frenzy in the CJY gyro part of the forum. The user mentioned of springing and/or breaking clutches. I only replaced my bell, and not the clutch. Anyone else have this problem??
I flew the TT frenzy and do not like it ( tail sucks) it is almost like the tube is winding up in the boom . Anyone else flying one?? problems? Hello? Lastly , I was talking to the guy I sold my Frenzy 90 to and he told me to check out the shipping costs @ hobby King. To ship a frenzy 50 it is about $46.00 I know I did not pay that much before. A Main has the Frenzy for $149.00 also, and the shipping is about half of that $46.00. Problem is, A Main cannot get em (50's). Alot of parts are on backorder as well. I feel ,as my friend does, that HK is stocking up the USA warehouse and screwing A-Main. Parts availibility has seemed to plague this model from day one and it's not getting any better. I feel as though it is to the point I need to change ,which sucks ,cause I love the way the frenzy flies. I am not making the move yet ,but have looked @ and priced the ELY-Q. SO after I am done with this HK stuff ( working on and fixing) I think I will make the move to a different model ( it would be a vibe if it and parts weren't so $$). Anyone, any suggestions?
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05-08-2011, 10:51 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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Look into the Outrage line of helis. They fly great and parts are cheep. Alot of shops carry them as well.
I love mine
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05-09-2011, 05:18 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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The new Thunder Tiger Titan X50 is really nice. Also the MA Fury 55. I know a guy with an ELY-Q that likes it. I know several people that have had a lot of problems with the Outrage Velocity. One guy I know, out of frustration from having so many mechanical failures, sold his Velocity airframe for $50 at a fun fly. At the next fun fly the guy he had sold it too said it blew up on him after a part failed after about 8 flights. Both these guys are very experienced builders and fliers so I don't believe it was operator/builder error. They do fly good when they stay together though
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05-10-2011, 03:28 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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For me 46$ shipping is not too much if you compare it to most helis this one costs a total of 196$ per kit which is extremely cheap.
Also since i do not leave in the US Amain shipping is costing me about the same ( i think it was 44$ something like that) BUT, they do not have stock for over 3 months, and the worst thing i mailed them 3 times no reply, i contact the online support and told me in 2 weeks...that was 3 months ago... LOL in the end i bought mine from HK, they seem to sustain a constant amount of spares now and they do bring new kits every 3 weeks which is not bad, and EMS for spares takes 4 working days to my doorstep so i am satisfied for now. |
05-10-2011, 05:30 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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shadowcaster , $196.00 is cheap. But is it really? Lets add the price of a metal swashplate ,thunder tiger clutch and bell, @ $46-$18-and$16 respectively.
So now the $196 price is really like $276.00. I am not busting balls here, I am just saying, I would rather fly than chase gremlins. I also want to do all this at a reasonable price. The outrage?? think I will pass. The X-50 @ $449.00 ! no thanks, I will go with the trex 600 for a bit over $300.00 Instead. I have owned and flown x-cells in the past, but I was never impressed with the way they flew. So this brings me full circle, a nice, inexpensive kit ELY-Q ?? On the shipping increase, I guess we can just blame that on fuel prices.
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05-16-2011, 04:31 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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I don't understand why you need the metal swash, and the TT clutch and clutch bell? I only changed the clutch liner with the TT one (cost around 1.5$) nothing else and the heli flies perfectly for a few gallons now...
Note My TZ is the latest batch so it may have some problems worked out that i didn't face and you did... Anyway everyone sees things differently i have a small rex 450, it flies great but i don't want another enlarged version of this heli, i prefer something else, i really like my TZ especially the head design... |
05-16-2011, 05:17 AM | #7 (permalink) | |
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I actually used a KLONE clutch bell. It is vented , anodized and inexpensive. Replacing was alot easier than fooling with the liner. I have metal swashplates on both my machines. The reason is that my first one developed alot of play after several flights ( I tried) and the second one was cracked where the ball screwed in. ( out of the box) Lastly , I fly 140 and just did not trust the plastic with the longer link balls.
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05-29-2011, 04:52 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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Skip Ely.Q, buddy had one and he had more failures and issues with it then one would dare even have in a nightmare.
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05-31-2011, 05:06 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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Thanks, price VS quality, I think it will be the Trex
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05-31-2011, 12:27 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Mattsergo60, Any Frenzy parts ordered from Hobby King come from China so I dont see how that's hurting A Main. I am concerned about parts availability though. I ended up replacing the tail with a Raptor 50v2 tail and then puting Quick UK metal grip assembly on THAT. I replaced the driveline from the main gear back through the start shaft with Raptor parts. Thats the main gear, clutch shoe, clutch bell, liner and start shaft.
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05-31-2011, 04:11 PM | #11 (permalink) | |
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As I stated in the first post, I am just looking for answers to the clutch and torque tube questions I have. I feel as though I may blow a clutch in the belt TZ because the KLONE bell I installed slips real nice during startup ( clearance) which seems to be the issue.
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06-01-2011, 12:51 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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No, nothing had failed. It all started because there was this little noise I heard in hover. I went ahead and dropped the engine and pulled the clutch to look everything over. I bought this Frenzy used so I was not sure how much time it had on everything so I decided to take a look. I found the start shaft had fretted inside the upper bearing of the block that holds the pinion and the start shaft. I could have left it but it would have always bothered me. The clutch shoe was ok but looked like it might have sprung a little so why mess with it, just replace. Well, the start shaft and the clutch shoe are on back order with everyone so I turned to Thunder Tiger Raptor. I was going to replace the liner just because I was replacing the shoe but the bearing in the bell was not 100% perfect so again, I was already in there, change it out. Same with the pinion. It was usable but maybe not perfect so out it went too. Therefore, it got a Raptor start shaft, Raptor clutch shoe, Raptor pinion gear and and aftermarket vented clutch bell and liner.
The Raptor tail assembly was to replace the Frenzy tail assembly which developed a bent shaft. I think I touched the tail in the grass. The Frenzy shaft was not available so again, Thunder Tiger Raptor to the rescue.The QuickUK metal grip assembly was purely optional and unnecessary. Marty |
07-04-2011, 04:24 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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still waiting on a reply. Come on ,someone out there has to be flying a Torque tube Frenzy. LMK how it is compared to the belt.
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