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istandalone · 02-13-2008, 04:14 PM

so that kinda sucks. they still have stock of parts for it, but i'm guessing that helimax is going out of business? they don't have that bad of a product, i actually love my mx450. if they had just not skimped on the small stuff, and spent more time assembling the helis they would have been alot better of a beginner bird. overall a good heli, just the little details that make it suck for newbies like me.

Raven_darkcloud · 02-14-2008, 04:16 AM

The x400 and 450 are actually made by ark of taiwan ( Li Chann )
http://www.lichann.com.tw/

istandalone · 02-14-2008, 03:56 PM

so if the x400 and mx400 are the same, is there an ark equivalent to the 450?

Raven_darkcloud · 02-14-2008, 04:12 PM

yes the x450xl and x450xs

KITEPILOT · 02-16-2008, 11:34 AM

they cant sell something like that so cheap and be w/o flaws

bgagnon · 02-16-2008, 09:07 PM

No heli are without flaws, You just buy the one with the flaws you can deal with and like a pro pilot as said... you buy an heli you can aford to crash.

I am very happy with my 400 pro

Raven_darkcloud · 02-17-2008, 12:44 PM

Once setup and running the x400 is a great sport heli. As for flaws, ask any one who has owned a new align product. Talk about crash test dummy, oh and then you go to get parts "umm they are on backorder and align has not given a ship date".

LTCOBRA1 · 02-29-2008, 10:10 AM

Since Tower has discontinued the 400 & 400Pro. You CAN use the Align 450 parts for this air frame. Currently updating the tail to a 345mm so I can use the 315 & 325 Align blades.

bgagnon · 02-29-2008, 01:57 PM

Yep I think the longuer boom is a popular mod but I'll wait for my first crash :o.

Raven_darkcloud · 03-03-2008, 05:09 AM

align 315's work great on stock 400 boom.

bgagnon · 03-03-2008, 08:05 AM

Hi Raven,

Just yesterday I had a blade explosion...

for no apparent reason. I was trying to track the blades. I was not event airborne and did not hit anything. I was wandering if I had to do the boom mod to use those. I know I have to do it for the 325 mm but do you think that the stock motor and pinion will be able to spin the 325mm or the 315 for that matter?

Thanks,

Raven_darkcloud · 03-03-2008, 10:22 AM

the 315's work fine I ran an align 430l motor on mine with 325s on extended boom.

LTCOBRA1 · 03-03-2008, 12:40 PM

They will fit without having to make any adjustments? I found the CF balde set for the 400 but it's scary how close the blade comes to touching the tail blades. Since I tried to make the alteration. I ca not get the tail to stay still. As soon as I give it throttle the tail spins counter clock wise. wasn't doing this before I tried to put th4e align tail boom and extra long drive belt on. But ow I have everything back to normal setup and the tail is driving me crazy. Any suggestion or advice.

Raven_darkcloud · 03-04-2008, 01:20 AM

The longer tail is a great thing on the 400. The extra tial athority helps even on the stock blades.

LTCOBRA1 · 03-04-2008, 01:14 PM

I'll try to get the full conversion done before this weekend then. I have a pair of 400 CF blades and they do not fit with the stock boom.

bgagnon · 03-04-2008, 03:24 PM

I am going to order 305 mm blades and try them with the stock boom and report back so we will have two differents config to talk about

LTCOBRA1 · 03-05-2008, 09:12 AM

Sounds good "Thanks B"

bgagnon · 03-05-2008, 10:48 AM

I said 305 but I meant 315

.. Sorry about that

LTCOBRA1 · 03-13-2008, 08:48 AM

Update on the tail boom conversion. Everything worked out fine. I can see and feel the difference in the response to my throw and tail being locked in.

ALSO!!!!!! the 450mx model has been reposted to Tower as of last night.

bgagnon · 03-14-2008, 09:42 AM

Weird I still see it as Discontinued.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMAE5&P=7

As long as they have parts to repair/upgrade we're fine

Hey LT did you buy the carbon 345mm heli-max boom or a regular t-rex 450 one?

02-13-2008, 04:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
istandalone Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2007	mx450 discontinued at tower.... so that kinda sucks. they still have stock of parts for it, but i'm guessing that helimax is going out of business? they don't have that bad of a product, i actually love my mx450. if they had just not skimped on the small stuff, and spent more time assembling the helis they would have been alot better of a beginner bird. overall a good heli, just the little details that make it suck for newbies like me. __________________ AMA# 906249 i'm now down to one heli (align sev2) but have an arsenal of 120+ mph jets. hmm...i think i see a pattern here lol.

02-14-2008, 04:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
Raven_darkcloud Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2006	The x400 and 450 are actually made by ark of taiwan ( Li Chann ) http://www.lichann.com.tw/ __________________ Team Outrage OPM - Fly it like it aint yours! JR X9303 2.4 Baby. I have felt the difference and I like it! Don"t make me list 'm all !

02-14-2008, 03:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
istandalone Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2007	so if the x400 and mx400 are the same, is there an ark equivalent to the 450? __________________ AMA# 906249 i'm now down to one heli (align sev2) but have an arsenal of 120+ mph jets. hmm...i think i see a pattern here lol.

02-14-2008, 04:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Raven_darkcloud Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2006	yes the x450xl and x450xs __________________ Team Outrage OPM - Fly it like it aint yours! JR X9303 2.4 Baby. I have felt the difference and I like it! Don"t make me list 'm all !

02-16-2008, 09:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
bgagnon Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008	No heli are without flaws, You just buy the one with the flaws you can deal with and like a pro pilot as said... you buy an heli you can aford to crash. I am very happy with my 400 pro __________________ Bruno Mini Titan E325, Stock, 2100T Gyro Combo No! No! it's not how it looks, My flying gets better.

02-16-2008, 11:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
KITEPILOT Join Date: Jan 2008	they cant sell something like that so cheap and be w/o flaws

02-17-2008, 12:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Raven_darkcloud Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2006	Once setup and running the x400 is a great sport heli. As for flaws, ask any one who has owned a new align product. Talk about crash test dummy, oh and then you go to get parts "umm they are on backorder and align has not given a ship date". __________________ Team Outrage OPM - Fly it like it aint yours! JR X9303 2.4 Baby. I have felt the difference and I like it! Don"t make me list 'm all !

02-29-2008, 10:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
LTCOBRA1 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2007	Since Tower has discontinued the 400 & 400Pro. You CAN use the Align 450 parts for this air frame. Currently updating the tail to a 345mm so I can use the 315 & 325 Align blades. __________________ GO GATORS!! TREX 600CF MX400 Pro E-Flite CP

02-29-2008, 01:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
bgagnon Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008	Yep I think the longuer boom is a popular mod but I'll wait for my first crash :o. __________________ Bruno Mini Titan E325, Stock, 2100T Gyro Combo No! No! it's not how it looks, My flying gets better.

03-03-2008, 05:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Raven_darkcloud Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2006	align 315's work great on stock 400 boom. __________________ Team Outrage OPM - Fly it like it aint yours! JR X9303 2.4 Baby. I have felt the difference and I like it! Don"t make me list 'm all !

03-03-2008, 08:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
bgagnon Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008	Hi Raven, Just yesterday I had a blade explosion... for no apparent reason. I was trying to track the blades. I was not event airborne and did not hit anything. I was wandering if I had to do the boom mod to use those. I know I have to do it for the 325 mm but do you think that the stock motor and pinion will be able to spin the 325mm or the 315 for that matter? Thanks, __________________ Bruno Mini Titan E325, Stock, 2100T Gyro Combo No! No! it's not how it looks, My flying gets better.

03-03-2008, 10:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
Raven_darkcloud Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2006	the 315's work fine I ran an align 430l motor on mine with 325s on extended boom. __________________ Team Outrage OPM - Fly it like it aint yours! JR X9303 2.4 Baby. I have felt the difference and I like it! Don"t make me list 'm all !

03-03-2008, 12:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
LTCOBRA1 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2007	They will fit without having to make any adjustments? I found the CF balde set for the 400 but it's scary how close the blade comes to touching the tail blades. Since I tried to make the alteration. I ca not get the tail to stay still. As soon as I give it throttle the tail spins counter clock wise. wasn't doing this before I tried to put th4e align tail boom and extra long drive belt on. But ow I have everything back to normal setup and the tail is driving me crazy. Any suggestion or advice. __________________ GO GATORS!! TREX 600CF MX400 Pro E-Flite CP

03-04-2008, 01:20 AM	#14 (permalink)
Raven_darkcloud Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2006	The longer tail is a great thing on the 400. The extra tial athority helps even on the stock blades. __________________ Team Outrage OPM - Fly it like it aint yours! JR X9303 2.4 Baby. I have felt the difference and I like it! Don"t make me list 'm all !

03-04-2008, 01:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
LTCOBRA1 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2007	I'll try to get the full conversion done before this weekend then. I have a pair of 400 CF blades and they do not fit with the stock boom. __________________ GO GATORS!! TREX 600CF MX400 Pro E-Flite CP

03-04-2008, 03:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
bgagnon Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008	I am going to order 305 mm blades and try them with the stock boom and report back so we will have two differents config to talk about __________________ Bruno Mini Titan E325, Stock, 2100T Gyro Combo No! No! it's not how it looks, My flying gets better.

03-05-2008, 09:12 AM	#17 (permalink)
LTCOBRA1 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2007	Sounds good "Thanks B" __________________ GO GATORS!! TREX 600CF MX400 Pro E-Flite CP

03-05-2008, 10:48 AM	#18 (permalink)
bgagnon Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008	I said 305 but I meant 315 .. Sorry about that __________________ Bruno Mini Titan E325, Stock, 2100T Gyro Combo No! No! it's not how it looks, My flying gets better.

03-13-2008, 08:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
LTCOBRA1 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2007	Update on the tail boom conversion. Everything worked out fine. I can see and feel the difference in the response to my throw and tail being locked in. ALSO!!!!!! the 450mx model has been reposted to Tower as of last night. __________________ GO GATORS!! TREX 600CF MX400 Pro E-Flite CP

03-14-2008, 09:42 AM	#20 (permalink)
bgagnon Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008	Weird I still see it as Discontinued. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMAE5&P=7 As long as they have parts to repair/upgrade we're fine Hey LT did you buy the carbon 345mm heli-max boom or a regular t-rex 450 one? __________________ Bruno Mini Titan E325, Stock, 2100T Gyro Combo No! No! it's not how it looks, My flying gets better.

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