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Old 05-05-2010, 06:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Purchased a spectrum dx6i with a AR6100e reciever my ? is can I use this reciever with my HK 500 GT that I just finished. The manual says it should only be limited to flying parkflyer type aircraft and mini and micro type helicopters only is this true? Should I put this reciever in my belt cp v2 and get another for my 500 GT. If so which reciever should I go wit?. Thanks
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You can use that receiver for your HK500GT.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey Spektrum guys, wasn't there something about "e" Rx being a low power consumption and reduced range? Something is ringing in my head , but I can't really remember , I'm Futaba myself.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Quote from my JR 9503 manual.

"IMPORTANT: When using the X9503 2.4 with parkflyer receivers(the AR6000, AR6100/E, AR6110/E, AR6300 and AR6400), it's imperative that these receivers only be flown in parkflyer-type aircraft(small electric airplanes or mini and micro helicopters). Flying receivers designed for parkflyers in larger aicraft could cause loss of control."

I have AR6200's and a R921 used in my fleet, so I cannot say for sure, YES.
I can only quote from the manufacturer, and I would side with them and say NO.

Just my .02 cents

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Old 05-06-2010, 12:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The "e" means end pins, but yes, the 6100, 6100e, 6110 & 6110e are all reduced range receivers. Designed for smaller models that you tend to fly closer in. I have an AR6200 full-range RX in my original Belt, as that's what came with my DX6i when I bought it. I just bought an AR6110e and plan to swap that into the Belt and use the AR6200 in my HK-500GT when it arrives.
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Definitely go with an AR6200.
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A 500 typically isn't flown far enough, I fly mine as close as I fly a 250. The 6100 is fine.

If you plan to fly 70+ feet away than invest in a 6200 just to be "manufacture spec safe".

We're talking about a 500, not a 600. A 500 is considered "micro".
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:53 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Is it really worth risking on such an expensive helicopter though?

Personally, even if I know I won't use it, I'd want as much range as possible just to be safe.
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I think Mike is right, the 6100/6110 would be OK, I'm really just going to be using the 6200 to be safe, and as I already have it.

I use a 6100 in a small plank (about 900mm / 3ft wing span, about the size of a 500 heli) and can fly it out to where I can hardly tell which way up it is, with no problem (other than the fact I can't tell which way up it is!)

Mike knows that Spektrum's customer service is very good, they replaced his whole heli when an RX fault caused a crash. They probably wouldn't do that if you were using a park-fly RX in a bigger aircraft. So being "manufacturer spec safe" is a good idea for a few reasons.
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Thinking about it, a 500 is a parkflyer.

I had a 6100E on my 250 and I punched it out to about 100 feet in the air piro'n inverted, lost sight of it for a second (ops) and did one of those famous Raquel Ballot moves on it's speedy upright negative pitch decent into earth and tail-slided a few feet out from the ground, didn't look half as cool as it does with a 700 nitro, but what ever right?

Point is if you intend to fly a 500 in a bigger space than 3 acres of land than you'll need more than a 6200 to keep a signal as that's what I fly in and never lost a signal. I stand on one end and fly beyond my property over the other empty lot and still do fine.

Besides, it's just a 500, their just a marginally bigger cheapo beater than the 450.
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Besides, it's just a 500, their just a marginally bigger cheapo beater than the 450.
Says the man who used to love his 500, until he got a .50 nitro - Mike, you're spoiled now
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The 600 is crap too! I have an Align 800 on pre-order as we speak.

Naw, I still love my 500 Dave, wicked collective and cyclic and the pop on it is just mind blowing, no wonder I never could get into the 250's. But the 500's are just cheap wreckers, not quote on quote "expensive" at all. Fix a 600 once from a minor "ops" and you'll see what I mean. :o It ends up costing about the amount of two 500 kits.

If anything though I'm a bit shy of anything smaller than a 600 now, been bad luck, all of them have had odd failure quirks leading to crashes, rarely ever my own piloting error anymore. Got madder and more discouraged, now I'm not even phased anymore, I just shrug my shoulders. The 600 will set me straight... It's already scared me to hell last week, I hear it growling at me every time I walk by it.

I have a priest coming to perform an exorcism tomorrow, should scare off this evil curse shadowing me.
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Old 05-07-2010, 04:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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No Mike, the HDX 500 is a cheap basher. The Trex 500 is almost as much as a 600 to repair. 450 to 600 the 500 is more on the 600 side for stability.

Like Mike said, the 500 is classed as a micro heli (or mini of the two) and I think people have gotten away with a 6100e. In fact I remember quite a lot using them in their 500's.

To be honest, these 2.4ghz recievers are very good these days. Remember, the 6200 can fly models further than you are capible of seeing. I don't think you'll be going very far with your 500.

On the other hand, better safe than sorry... You don't want to risk a crash just because of a reciever.

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i use ar6100s and 6110s on my foamy planks. I have shot them up vertically until I could barely see the spec of airframe. They may say "reduced range" but I have seen You tube SURFACE (read..interference) tests at almost a mile with no control loss. I have never experienced a lockout or hit using the smaller receivers. I have 6200 in an EDF jet I have yet to fly...but only because horizon gave it to me. Go with whichever one you want...use the range test and have a friend stand by your heli and wave when it stops responding to inputs (actually...he might need a cell phone). My .02
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Old 05-09-2010, 08:07 AM   #15 (permalink)
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It's not the range that's the issue here.... you're unlikey to fly a 500 beyond the range of a parkflyer Rx.... It's a big chunk of carbon fiber that's called the frame, sitting between the Rx and Tx. With the extra satellite Rx on an AR6200 and above, the chance of "RF shadowing" is greatly reduced.
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