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Old 08-01-2014, 01:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I'm a huge Nick Maxwell fan. He's by far my favorite pilot to watch. Really cool guy, too. My flying style is a mix between him and Curtis, because that's where I get all my inspiration.
I've copied some of his moves, and it blows my buddys' minds at the field. It's pretty badass seeing all the . Haha.

But.. I can't get this one down.

This video is incredible. But the move I'm talking about starts at 3:12. I don't even know what to call it.

Nick Maxwell Tree Trimming NIGHT - 4th Annual Heli Phenomenon (5 min 50 sec)


I can do the horizontal funnels he starts at 3:20, those are fairly easy. However, whatever he starts at 3:12, I'm lost.
Need some help with the braintrust here to figure that one out, so I can REALLY freak everybody out at the field.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try slowing the video down to 0.5 or 0.25 the speed. But still is very complicated move. Will certainly leave everyone speechless at the field.
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Old 08-01-2014, 04:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks like he starts a piro flip with a very low piro rate but instead of completing the flip, at inverted he returns the flip from where it came, sort of half flips back and forth while piroing.
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Kinda. But it's a roll right, then a roll right. And opposite rudder inverted and upright
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I slowed it down, it's really not that complicated. It's just how quick he does it that makes it confusing to watch. gitbse is right. He rolls right, half piro with left rudder, roll right again back to upright, half piro with right rudder, repeat. He doesn't pause or come to rest at all between them. Nick's the best there is when it comes to creative, innovative maneuvers that make you scratch your head and have to slow the video down just to process what you just saw.
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Watched it super slow and you're right, plain rolls with left rudder inverted for what seems a quarter to half a piro and a hint of right rudder upright.
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He doesn't pause or come to rest at all between them. Nick's the best there is when it comes to creative, innovative maneuvers that make you scratch your head and have to slow the video down just to process what you just saw.
That's for sure. That's why I love watching him so much, and why I copy so much of his style. He pushes the envelope of creativity more than anybody.
I'll never forget the IRCHA 2012 I went to, during the One Comp. that he won. He did a MASSIVE angled hurricane, where the body was somewhere around 45 degrees, rather than nose forward or side forward, as in a funnel. The crowd went CRAZY when he did that. It was nothing crazy special, but it looked so badass. That hurricane won the comp for him.

But yea, that seems like it's pretty much it. It's amazing the transition between right/left rudder he does, it's incredibly seamless.
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That's for sure. That's why I love watching him so much, and why I copy so much of his style. He pushes the envelope of creativity more than anybody.
I'll never forget the IRCHA 2012 I went to, during the One Comp. that he won. He did a MASSIVE angled hurricane, where the body was somewhere around 45 degrees, rather than nose forward or side forward, as in a funnel. The crowd went CRAZY when he did that. It was nothing crazy special, but it looked so badass. That hurricane won the comp for him.

But yea, that seems like it's pretty much it. It's amazing the transition between right/left rudder he does, it's incredibly seamless.
After the piro flips it looks like he is doing the heli equivalent of a snap roll.

A snap roll (or flick roll) is an off axis roll that really messes up a planes aerodynamics something fierce (heli no so much, as it helps keep thrust in the direction of travel, but still need to compensate for wind and gravity to keep it online which Nick does amazingly).

Love the flipping hurricane (CCW circle of tight circles/flips).

The rotating axis tic-tocs were pretty cool too.

Was it me, or did the piro flips look like standard 360/360 piro flips, but cued side on instead of the usual tail in.
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I think I've got it down... it's getting real close. I can do it skids out really well. It's when I try to change to skids in like Nick does it.. it can get sloppy. Skids in is what makes it look so cool when he does it. That and the fact that Nick is straight up badass.

I'll get both down soon though.
I'll post a video soon.
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*Edit.*
Just spent some time on the sim again.
Skids in is INCREDIBLY challenging. I can do alot of stuff skids in, but this "pommel horse" as I call it... is going to be a bear to master.
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