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Ecaf · 04-19-2011, 11:11 AM

Just got this email from Corrado:

We just put on the site new 450 upgrades, including stretch kit for the Mini (350 blades), low flybarless hub and many other upgrades.

In the Protos upgrades you can find the new thrusted tail rotor.

Nice....

whisperdancer · 04-19-2011, 11:25 AM

I wonder if this will bring any benefit from the Alex solution with the shoulder bolts.
I never liked Align's solution, as the grips had too much play. They seem to work fine, though.
With the Alex's mod for the tail, there is ablolutely zero play on the tail grips, and they spin freely.
Nevertheless it's nice to see TH bearings in the tail. I hope it fixes something...

BTW, what are those to small pieces on the right of the picture? Shouldn't they be locknuts?

alexf1852 · 04-19-2011, 01:07 PM

Awesome! I hope these new tail hubs/spindles are better quality.

alexf1852 · 04-19-2011, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whisperdancer

I wonder if this will bring any benefit from the Alex solution with the shoulder bolts.
I never liked Align's solution, as the grips had too much play. They seem to work fine, though.
With the Alex's mod for the tail, there is ablolutely zero play on the tail grips, and they spin freely.
Nevertheless it's nice to see TH bearings in the tail. I hope it fixes something...

BTW, what are those to small pieces on the right of the picture? Shouldn't they be locknuts?

I think those are flat washers. I like that new tail hub though.

whisperdancer · 04-19-2011, 01:35 PM

You are right. Washers for the hub bolts...

I hope someone gets it and tell the difference.

alexf1852 · 04-19-2011, 03:33 PM

I'll be getting the tail hub for sure:
http://msheli.com/Item.aspx?IDItem=314

I have 3 tail hubs that the hole is not centered.

whisperdancer · 04-19-2011, 04:44 PM

Do you think your bearing arrangement fits this hub?

alexf1852 · 04-19-2011, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whisperdancer

Do you think your bearing arrangement fits this hub?

It uses the same radial and thrust bearings. I'm not sure about the shims though. If you buy the tail hub, they come with the shims.

Otatiaro · 04-20-2011, 04:00 AM

Hello,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecaf

low flybarless hub

Whhhooooooooo, where is this one, :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart:

Regards,
Thomas.

Ecaf · 04-20-2011, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otatiaro

Hello,

Whhhooooooooo, where is this one, :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart: :addtocart:

Regards,
Thomas.

That one is for the mini-Protos.

Otatiaro · 04-20-2011, 07:28 AM

Hello,

Yeah, Corrado just told me that by mail ... but it seems the same for the 500 is planned in the near future. Can't wait ...

Regards,
Thomas.

whisperdancer · 04-20-2011, 07:49 AM

Is there any advantage on a lower head block, besides the look?

Otatiaro · 04-20-2011, 07:56 AM

Ahem ... besides the look ...

Takes less room in the car, to put more helis ?

It decreases the distance between the rotor disc and the center of gravity, more agility.

Regards,
Thomas.

PS : but the look is the first argument ...

gorn · 04-20-2011, 06:02 PM

I am very glad to see a thrusted tail option for the Protos

I tried the Infinity Hobby conversion....
I STRONGLY recommend NOT doing that!!!
6 flights, it threw a grip.
The bolt failed in flight.
Took 3 weeks to find the CNC grip

Either convert using a Mikado hub and bearings, or wait a lil longer and get the MSH gear.

urgno · 05-10-2011, 05:29 AM

I have the MSH51330 upgrade in my hands

but ... how to assemble it ?

drader · 05-11-2011, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urgno

I have the MSH51330 upgrade in my hands

but ... how to assemble it ?

... the same here!

Corrado pleaseeeeee!!!!

ebonicrobot · 05-11-2011, 09:20 PM

Cant wait for the 500 to have them. Gorn that sucks that you had bad experience with the infinity hobby ones. I have the grips but have yet to buy the thrusted bearings.

Otatiaro · 05-12-2011, 02:39 AM

Hello,

I shall receive the thrusted tail upgrade in the coming days.

But for how to assemble it, you can check the protos or mini protos manual, it should be the same sequence as for the main blade grips.

From what I see here :

from hub to blade :

- 1 normal bearing
- 1 or 2 large shim
- thrust bearing, larger inside diameter part
- thrust bearing, balls
- thrust bearing, smaller inside diameter part
- 1 small shim
- 1 normal bearing
- 1 thick shim
- screw

this is the standard and best way to assemble 2 normal bearings with a thrust bearing in between.

Regards,
Thomas.

[EDIT] Confirmed by Corrado, the exploded views are coming on MS Heli site.

babyuh1 · 05-12-2011, 06:37 AM

It looks like the MSH51330 is for the Protos as it is listed for the Protos upgrades. Not the Mini?

urgno · 05-12-2011, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otatiaro

[EDIT] Confirmed by Corrado, the exploded views are coming on MS Heli site.

I prefer not to guess about the correct order

I'll wait for Corrato

[EDIT]
Corrado just posted this link

http://www.msheli.com/manual/MSH51330_Tech_Data.pdf

04-19-2011, 11:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ecaf Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2006	New parts - thrusted tail... Just got this email from Corrado: We just put on the site new 450 upgrades, including stretch kit for the Mini (350 blades), low flybarless hub and many other upgrades. In the Protos upgrades you can find the new thrusted tail rotor. Nice....

04-19-2011, 11:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
whisperdancer Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	I wonder if this will bring any benefit from the Alex solution with the shoulder bolts. I never liked Align's solution, as the grips had too much play. They seem to work fine, though. With the Alex's mod for the tail, there is ablolutely zero play on the tail grips, and they spin freely. Nevertheless it's nice to see TH bearings in the tail. I hope it fixes something... BTW, what are those to small pieces on the right of the picture? Shouldn't they be locknuts? __________________ MSH Prôtos CF FBL Stretch E-flite HABU 32, Parkzone HABU 2 Ikarus F3A Multiplex Parkmaster 3D

04-19-2011, 01:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
alexf1852 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009	Awesome! I hope these new tail hubs/spindles are better quality. __________________ MSH Protos 500, SAB 630

04-19-2011, 01:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
whisperdancer Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	You are right. Washers for the hub bolts... I hope someone gets it and tell the difference. __________________ MSH Prôtos CF FBL Stretch E-flite HABU 32, Parkzone HABU 2 Ikarus F3A Multiplex Parkmaster 3D

04-19-2011, 03:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
alexf1852 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009	I'll be getting the tail hub for sure: http://msheli.com/Item.aspx?IDItem=314 I have 3 tail hubs that the hole is not centered. __________________ MSH Protos 500, SAB 630

04-19-2011, 04:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
whisperdancer Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	Do you think your bearing arrangement fits this hub? __________________ MSH Prôtos CF FBL Stretch E-flite HABU 32, Parkzone HABU 2 Ikarus F3A Multiplex Parkmaster 3D

04-20-2011, 07:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
Otatiaro Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2007	Hello, Yeah, Corrado just told me that by mail ... but it seems the same for the 500 is planned in the near future. Can't wait ... Regards, Thomas.

04-20-2011, 07:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
whisperdancer Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	Is there any advantage on a lower head block, besides the look? __________________ MSH Prôtos CF FBL Stretch E-flite HABU 32, Parkzone HABU 2 Ikarus F3A Multiplex Parkmaster 3D

04-20-2011, 07:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
Otatiaro Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2007	Ahem ... besides the look ... Takes less room in the car, to put more helis ? It decreases the distance between the rotor disc and the center of gravity, more agility. Regards, Thomas. PS : but the look is the first argument ...

04-20-2011, 06:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
gorn Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2005	I am very glad to see a thrusted tail option for the Protos I tried the Infinity Hobby conversion.... I STRONGLY recommend NOT doing that!!! 6 flights, it threw a grip. The bolt failed in flight. Took 3 weeks to find the CNC grip Either convert using a Mikado hub and bearings, or wait a lil longer and get the MSH gear. __________________ If you bling it, they will come!!

05-10-2011, 05:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
urgno Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2007	I have the MSH51330 upgrade in my hands but ... how to assemble it ? Last edited by urgno; 05-10-2011 at 07:07 AM..

05-11-2011, 09:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
ebonicrobot Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2008	Cant wait for the 500 to have them. Gorn that sucks that you had bad experience with the infinity hobby ones. I have the grips but have yet to buy the thrusted bearings. __________________ Avant Aurora FBL, YEP 120/700MX 510kv, Cyclic S9255 CGY750/9254 JR NEX E8, YGE 90/700MX,Cyclic DS610,BeastX/DS650 Trex 450 DFC 3S, YEP 45/450MX,Cyclic DS95i(clones), BeastX/8910a+, Frenzy 90(UNDER CONSTRUCTION)

05-12-2011, 02:39 AM	#18 (permalink)
Otatiaro Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2007	Hello, I shall receive the thrusted tail upgrade in the coming days. But for how to assemble it, you can check the protos or mini protos manual, it should be the same sequence as for the main blade grips. From what I see here : from hub to blade : - 1 normal bearing - 1 or 2 large shim - thrust bearing, larger inside diameter part - thrust bearing, balls - thrust bearing, smaller inside diameter part - 1 small shim - 1 normal bearing - 1 thick shim - screw this is the standard and best way to assemble 2 normal bearings with a thrust bearing in between. Regards, Thomas. [EDIT] Confirmed by Corrado, the exploded views are coming on MS Heli site.

05-12-2011, 06:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
babyuh1 Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2008	It looks like the MSH51330 is for the Protos as it is listed for the Protos upgrades. Not the Mini? __________________ Please don't confuse my experience with pessimism! Protos 500, HCP100S, Raptor 50, many more!

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