Blade 300 CFX

[nartac]

Originally Posted by MLFLY

Sorry if it's a dumb question but I noted the scorpion oil to the motor. Where do you apply it?

How to Oil your Scorpion Motor Bearings by Innov8tive Designs (12 min 20 sec)

[jaydekay]

I'm not really seeing any of the 300 X issues addressed other than the frame.

At this price there should be, at minimum, a better motor and better cyclic servos as well.

To me, this mainly looks like HH is putting out a different model that they can have higher margins than they did on the original 300 X with hardly anything more offered to the end user.

If the parts pricing is economical, and they put this out for closer to $320, than the $399 ($459.99 MSRP) as it's shown on the site, then cool - but that doesn't seem to be the case.

These are just my initial thoughts, but I've seen quite a bit over the years and have owned several Blade helis including the 300 X (which I've enjoyed).

[Schwallyjdog]

I'm kind of wondering how it would fly with 300x stock gearing. That would be a cheap way to make it bog less. I'm sure anyone who buys this will loctite the motor before first flight. Just buy extra gears and you will probably be set for a while. Mine is down waiting on servo gears but I'm not ready for better servos. I've kept my total price low so far and I think its a fun heli and really nice size after a micro.

[thruster]

$399 is considerable chunk of money for me at least.......but over time using amain hobbies has paid off. They have a lot of special sales and discounts that save me hundreds on horizon and spektrum stuff.

[Scotty T]

Entry level 3d capable? I don't know about you but I did the review in RC helipilot when it was pre release and I was able to bang the shit out of that heli out of the box. I've since done minor upgrades and my 300x is balls to the wall. Just sayin'

[foxracing515151]

New Video Blade 300 CFX (3 min 3 sec)

[DoubleCH]

Nice demo of what a limited power heli can do but those tic-tocs (if you can even call those tic-tocs not lazy rainbows) at 1:05 are likely struggling to stay in the air. The original 300X pre-release demo video did better than that.

[BladeScraper]

I think it seemed to be doing fine, I don't think he was trying to tic toc as fast as possible. Judging by the amount of power it seems to have, I'd say it 'can' do them better than the original 300X.

[DoubleCH]

You can hear HS drops so much after every flip and every stroke on the lazy rainbow. He needed the time to restore HS after those moves. I doubt he could keep the HS up any tighter tic-toc.

[nartac]

Originally Posted by DoubleCH

You can hear HS drops so much after every flip and every stroke on the lazy rainbow. He needed the time to restore HS after those moves. I doubt he could keep the HS up any tighter tic-toc.

. I couldn't agree more. The pilot is very skilled I must say but still the heli flies like . It needs better motor.

[BladeScraper]

no one said anything about keeping the headspeed up. Ever tic toc'd a Nano? I have. It's possible but the headspeed drops some. Just keep pushing on

[Inverted2112]

+1. Fine example of what a talented guy can do with an underpowered bird.
On the upside, there are still plenty of inexpensive power plant solutions once the owner outgrows stock performance.

[DoubleCH]

Originally Posted by BladeScraper

no one said anything about keeping the headspeed up. Ever tic toc'd a Nano? I have. It's possible but the headspeed drops some. Just keep pushing on

OTOH I didn't say no one can't 3D an underpowered heli. I started off with the original mCPx with brushed motor so don't tell me what an underpowered heli is. I'm talking about tic-toc in particular. No one I mean NO ONE can do a tight fast hard-stop tic-toc with an underpowered heli. Period.

[Chris g.]

Originally Posted by DoubleCH

OTOH I didn't say no one can't 3D an underpowered heli. I started off with the original mCPx with brushed motor so don't tell me what an underpowered heli is. I'm talking about tic-toc in particular. No one I mean NO ONE can do a tight fast hard-stop tic-toc with an underpowered heli. Period.

+1..

This heli sounds really underpowered! It's going to be interesting to see if a bigger motor Will even fit in this frame being that the motor is underneath now.

[BladeScraper]

Originally Posted by DoubleCH

OTOH I didn't say no one can't 3D an underpowered heli. I started off with the original mCPx with brushed motor so don't tell me what an underpowered heli is. I'm talking about tic-toc in particular. .

You bet I know what an underpowered heli is... I have had 3 mCP X 's. All stock... and one with a bunch of upgrades making it heavier... a 300X with weak batteries... yet I am able to do tic tocs very easily. Aileron and elevator.

With a stock Nano aileron and elevator tic tocs are pretty easy to do. With a good pilot.

I was also talking about tic tocs in particular... why would you say that.

No one I mean NO ONE can do a tight fast hard-stop tic-toc with an underpowered heli. Period.

I can hence what I said earlier in this post. ^

[BladeScraper]

Originally Posted by Inverted2112

+1. Fine example of what a talented guy can do with an underpowered bird.
On the upside, there are still plenty of inexpensive power plant solutions once the owner outgrows stock performance.

yup. a good enough pilot can easily tic toc an underpowered heli. Be it a Nano, 300X, 300 CFX, mCPx...


if you think it bogs too much, put a smaller pinion on there. All Blade did was throw an extra two teeth on the pinion, made a carbon frame, made some metal upgrades, moved the servos around, and called it a new heli. If you bring the pinion back down, you'll basically have a 300X. A stock 300X doesn't bog much in my experience, hard 3D with tic tocs at 100% is pretty darn easy. A small heli can only tic toc so fast though. Bigger helis can tic toc much faster. Small helis don't have much hang time so you have to be applying collective a lot/more often to keep it in the air.

[Inverted2112]

On the upside, I'm quite happy with my modified 300X, though not much beyond the tail case, boom and belt are true 300X parts anymore.. Oops..

Originally Posted by BladeScraper

yup. a good enough pilot can easily tic toc an underpowered heli. Be it a Nano, 300X, 300 CFX, mCPx...


if you think it bogs too much, put a smaller pinion on there. All Blade did was throw an extra two teeth on the pinion, made a carbon frame, made some metal upgrades, moved the servos around, and called it a new heli. If you bring the pinion back down, you'll basically have a 300X. A stock 300X doesn't bog much in my experience, hard 3D with tic tocs at 100% is pretty darn easy. A small heli can only tic toc so fast though. Bigger helis can tic toc much faster. Small helis don't have much hang time so you have to be applying collective a lot/more often to keep it in the air.

[foxracing515151]

Just throw a scorpion 2213_14 and castle creations 35 on it, only plus 3 grams and way more tq.

[nartac]

Originally Posted by foxracing515151

Just throw a scorpion 2213_14 and castle creations 35 on it, only plus 3 grams and way more tq.

the problem is fitment. The 300CFX has the motor mounted inside the frame so I am not sure if the 2213-14 will fit in it. The stock is quite small compared to the scorpion motor. If it fit, it will be very tight fit and you may need to do some modifications. I hope not though. We won't know until it's released I guess.

look at the pictures on this thread: https://www.helifreak.com/showpost.p...&postcount=611
notice how the top of the motor (being upside down) almost touch the bottom plate?

additionally, I hope the cf frame sides have elongated holes to adjust the motor position. This would complicate things if you put in a motor with big pinion and it needs to back out a little. But it's something a dremel can handle to modify the holes a little

[DWill]

Seems like Blade/HH has done some homework. Looks like they built this frame to fit the stock motor, which the likely didn't "fix" on purpose.

The stock motor is a POS as are the stock electronics. Now you get a 300X with no upgrade path for the motor, only the stock motor looks to fit. When that stock motor breaks after a few flights you get to buy another stock motor… after a few flights… you get to buy another…

Your money = food for the monster.