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Old 11-10-2015, 09:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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That would be great. The Spartan Quark is definitely way better than the 401. It has a MEMS sensor instead of the older piezo sensor. Either one would be an improvement over the stock g110.
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Hey guys, O.K. that's interesting. I actually have a Quark laying around that I was going to put on my B400, but then I went FBL and the idea fell by the wayside. I looked up the specs of the Quark, and the Quark is a digital servo ONLY gyro and the manual states that it should not be used with analogue servos. That said, I've read that some SR owners have used the GY401 in digital mode with the delay turned up to max and it worked o.k. I'm not sure if the Quark had a delay though.

I could contact Angelos (The designer and owner of Spartan) and see what he says about the idea.

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I run digital servos on my SR, Hitech 65mg's, but I wonder how you would go about setting up either gyro since there are pitch settings one has to make with the setup?
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I run digital servos on my SR, Hitech 65mg's, but I wonder how you would go about setting up either gyro since there are pitch settings one has to make with the setup?
That I do not know. So with the stock setup, the POT on the ESC is used to set the "pitch" i.e. tail motor speed in a hover, right?

I'll contact Angelos and see what he says, but I wouldn't get my hopes up too much. Can't hurt to ask though.

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I run digital servos on my SR, Hitech 65mg's, but I wonder how you would go about setting up either gyro since there are pitch settings one has to make with the setup?
I would think you would set up the 401 the same as the g110. As far as the Quark goes, it too would still be the same with the exception of turning the delay all the way up like MB said. That is, if the Quark is able to be used on the SR. I really don't see a reason why it wouldn't be able to be used, though. I don't have a Quark, but it would be nice to find out if it is compatible with the SR. "That would give SR owners everywhere hope" that they can get their tail under control. Lol.
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I don't know fellas, there were quite a few mad scientists back in the day originally on this bird "tinkering". Even the fella who said he had worked the 401 out somewhat said the tail was still "wagging"
Mine does this a bit in idol 0, but once in idol 1 she smooths out.
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Yeah, that's the thing with the SR, It's old tech, it's a lot better than what was available 10 years ago, but electric RC helicopters have come a long way in even the last few years. If we want an SR with modern tech, we need to buy a 230S LOL!!

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Yeah, that's the thing with the SR, It's old tech, it's a lot better than what was available 10 years ago, but electric RC helicopters have come a long way in even the last few years. If we want an SR with modern tech, we need to buy a 230S LOL!!

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That's exactly right, the SR is what it is, one could pour tons of money into it to get it flying really good, but the amount of money could and would be much better spent on one of the newer heli's that already fly nice. And this comes from a guy that loves the SR! :-)
I myself wouldn't recommend the SR to a rookie new to CP birds.
By the same token, the SR/Huey is a capable bird, but one has to be aware of its misgivings that it can have, and have the patients to deal with them if need be.
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That's exactly right, the SR is what it is, one could pour tons of money into it to get it flying really good, but the amount of money could and would be much better spent on one of the newer heli's that already fly nice. And this comes from a guy that loves the SR! :-)
I myself wouldn't recommend the SR to a rookie new to CP birds.
By the same token, the SR/Huey is a capable bird, but one has to be aware of its misgivings that it can have, and have the patients to deal with them if need be.
+1, Rodney, you know I feel the exact same way as you. I love my little SR, as long as you get a good mechanical set up, the heli flies pretty decent. With that being said, if someone wants an easy to fly, easy to learn CP heli, I would definitely stay away from the SR unless you have a ton of patience. But it would be nice to find an inexpensive solution to the tail problems for those of us who had enough patience to go thru the learning curve of the SR. Yes, the easy way out would be to just buy the new, and pretty awesome, 230s. Would love to have one but can't afford it right now. I already have an SR, so why not try to improve it a little bit.
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+1, Rodney, you know I feel the exact same way as you. I love my little SR, as long as you get a good mechanical set up, the heli flies pretty decent. With that being said, if someone wants an easy to fly, easy to learn CP heli, I would definitely stay away from the SR unless you have a ton of patience. But it would be nice to find an inexpensive solution to the tail problems for those of us who had enough patience to go thru the learning curve of the SR. Yes, the easy way out would be to just buy the new, and pretty awesome, 230s. Would love to have one but can't afford it right now. I already have an SR, so why not try to improve it a little bit.
This is true, it would be a good thing!
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I wonder if Blade have any plans to produce a 230S with a scale fuselage, a Huey for example I suppose they have kind of done that already with the new Apache, not that that's a 230S underneath of course.

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I wonder if Blade have any plans to produce a 230S with a scale fuselage, a Huey for example I suppose they have kind of done that already with the new Apache, not that that's a 230S underneath of course.

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You never know, with the popularity it seems to have its possible. Heck the after market parts for the 230s are already ramped up and it seems more ad on stuff for it pops up every week.
I have already told the wife that If Santa doesn't bring me one, then Satan will force me too after the first of the year....;-).
They have sold out twice already on this bird, first when it was first offered, then they ran a $199.00 special just a month or so ago and sold out again.
Hadn't checked to see if it was back in stock yet.
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You never know, with the popularity it seems to have its possible. Heck the after market parts for the 230s are already ramped up and it seems more ad on stuff for it pops up every week.
I have already told the wife that If Santa doesn't bring me one, then Satan will force me too after the first of the year....;-).
They have sold out twice already on this bird, first when it was first offered, then they ran a $199.00 special just a month or so ago and sold out again.
Hadn't checked to see if it was back in stock yet.
I can't afford to get a 230s yet, lord knows I have enough other crash parts I still need, but the 230s is so appealing that I was thinking about maybe getting it with my Christmas bonus. Although I'm getting an early Christmas present from a very kind gentleman, which will be the last part I need to rebuild my SR, I still need a few parts to rebuild my HK 250gt. But if the 230s goes on sale when I get my bonus, I might have to put the 250 on hold and buy myself a Christmas gift.
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I can't afford to get a 230s yet, lord knows I have enough other crash parts I still need, but the 230s is so appealing that I was thinking about maybe getting it with my Christmas bonus. Although I'm getting an early Christmas present from a very kind gentleman, which will be the last part I need to rebuild my SR, I still need a few parts to rebuild my HK 250gt. But if the 230s goes on sale when I get my bonus, I might have to put the 250 on hold and buy myself a Christmas gift.
This is a very expensive hobby! If your like me (boarder line parts hoarder), it's even more expensive! But at the same time if one doesn't keep parts on hand, it's a painful wait sometimes...:-(.

I've been trying to be a little more intelligent about this hobby, instead of like when I first started out (3-4 different brands/sizes). Now I a
in the process of same brand/size=smaller parts type to have.
That's hard to do though given the different brands out there, have been trying to align with Align heli's, but now my eyes are drifting to Gaui, or Goblins.....:-(
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This is a very expensive hobby! If your like me (boarder line parts hoarder), it's even more expensive! But at the same time if one doesn't keep parts on hand, it's a painful wait sometimes...:-(.

I've been trying to be a little more intelligent about this hobby, instead of like when I first started out (3-4 different brands/sizes). Now I a
in the process of same brand/size=smaller parts type to have.
That's hard to do though given the different brands out there, have been trying to align with Align heli's, but now my eyes are drifting to Gaui, or Goblins.....:-(
Yes, this is a very expensive hobby, or addiction. Some might compare it to a crack addiction. Lol! I wish I could be a parts hoarder, but can't afford to be. I have to endure the painful wait every time I crash. Thankfully I don't crash as often as I used to. My last crash with the 250 was due to a faulty part. But I now have all of the parts I need to fix the SR, so.......let the rebuilding begin!
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I'd have to agree that this hobby of ours is addictive, and expensive. I've joked with a few friends that a crack habit might actually be cheaper. LOL!!

I too am a parts hoarder, and I have about 14 heli's from Align, Blade and Oxy (Lynx). Most of them are Blade sub micros, and I've never crashed anything larger than the Oxy 3. I keep less parts for the larger birds, and I can't afford the repair bills.

A few of my heli's are retired as well, like my mSR and mCPX. my Align T-Rex 250 DFC is semi retired now, replaced by Oxy 3, as is my 130X, replaced by 180CFX.

I'm not going to be buying any more helis this Christmas, or in the new year though. I've let my habit run out of control over the last few years. I need to take a step back, sell off some spares I'll never use and learn to get better at Flying the heli's I already have.

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Yeah I have debated on getting rid of my V120D02s (because I have 3 different radios, 3 different brands of heli's) only have 7 heli's and have been thinking maybe I should thin the herd down to 1 or 2 sizes. 450/500 to be specific, just for the fact I can see em to fly em lol.
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The reason I have so many sub micros is the weather here is Scotland is to poor to fly outside for more than 6 months of the year. Most of my flying is done indoors in a games hall. So I've ended up with 3 x Nano's (CPX's), a mCPX BL, a Trex 150, a 130X etc as I can fly them in rotation allowing them to cool in between flights. Sub micros don't like to be flown back to back, their electronics can't handle the stress (heat) generated.

The biggest heli I have is a T-REX 500, bought second hand and as yet not flown, it needs a full bearing re-kit and I'm it two minds as to whether I should fix it or put the electronics into a new air frame, like a 500L dominator, not sure yet though.

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thats a bummer, I hear tell beautiful country over there though!
As far as the 500 goes, I'd just see how she flies first before modding it, you might just like it as it is!
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I kinda feel the same as MB. I'd like to get a few more helis. My biggest is only a 450 pro, and although I'd like to get a 500, 550 or the new 230S, my budget really doesn't allow and I would be better off learning to fly what I have better and concentrate on keeping them in the air.
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