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TomC · 03-08-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter1

Thanks. Can we just put one shim instead of 2 if the grips get too tight?

I would only shim it if the grips actually have side-play when you pull on each of them. If they have up/down rocking play this is caused by the main grip radial bearings fitting a little too loose in the grips imho. In this case I think you are better to remove the radial bearings (pretty easy to do if they are loose btw) and apply a little green loctite or even med CA (this is what I used), let it set properly and then reassemble.

I did this and it took all the x50e grip play away for me, without adding any shims.

Cheers,
TomC

helicopter1 · 03-09-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TomC

I would only shim it if the grips actually have side-play when you pull on each of them. If they have up/down rocking play this is caused by the main grip radial bearings fitting a little too loose in the grips imho. In this case I think you are better to remove the radial bearings (pretty easy to do if they are loose btw) and apply a little green loctite or even med CA (this is what I used), let it set properly and then reassemble.

I did this and it took all the x50e grip play away for me, without adding any shims.

Cheers,
TomC

The grips have side play, I pull on one side and the other side slides towards the hub, the side play is not a lot but it is there.

WessCo · 03-09-2013, 05:36 PM

It should sling the grips out......probably not supposed to though.

Flydynamics · 03-12-2013, 01:22 PM

Any video of the X50E and the 4225-550 ?

OnTheSnap · 03-12-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shotgun34

Any video of the X50E and the 4225-550 ?

I'll try to make one soon. Still struggling with iKon gov settings. I get both high freq and low freq oscillations on the motor during heavy loading lol.

TomC · 03-12-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shotgun34

Any video of the X50E and the 4225-550 ?

Here's one of Nick Maxwell w/4225-520 and 16t pinion. Probably would do ~ the same with a 4225-550 and 15t pinon. Looks way too ballistic for me, lol!

Nick Maxwell flying X50 with 4525-520 before the Orlando FF (2 min 59 sec)

Cheers,
TomC

Flydynamics · 03-12-2013, 06:17 PM

Thx Tom, but not interested too much in seeing a sponsored pilot flying to tell you the truth ... I'm interested in guys like you and me who are not doing this for a living ;-) in a sense that we are not on the same league .... skills and material at disposition.
Snap that will be cool ... sorry to hear you have trouble with heavy loading vibes ...

OnTheSnap · 03-12-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TomC

Here's one of Nick Maxwell w/4225-520 and 16t pinion. Probably would do ~ the same with a 4225-550 and 15t pinon. Looks way too ballistic for me, lol!

Nick Maxwell flying X50 with 4525-520 before the Orlando FF - YouTube

Cheers,
TomC

That's a 4525 not a 4225. BIG difference. Like 5kW peak.

The 4225 is a super light a powerful 600 class motor. The 4525 LE ultimate is the state of the art 700 motor.

Flydynamics · 03-12-2013, 06:25 PM

Snap I've read a while ago about a guy on the other forum having some vibes when he was reversing pitch during large rainbows ... it was due to the little play in the main shaft ... Maybe a "raod" to explore for your pb ?!...
If it's only the IKON then no pb you'll finds the right gains ...
Good luck on finding the solution ...

TomC · 03-12-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheSnap

That's a 4525 not a 4225. BIG difference. Like 5kW peak.

The 4225 is a super light a powerful 600 class motor. The 4525 LE ultimate is the state of the art 700 motor.

Thanks for catching this snap. I guess that the main adv of the smaller 4225 is it does not need +100c batteries, lol!

Cheers,
TomC

OnTheSnap · 03-12-2013, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shotgun34

Snap I've read a while ago about a guy on the other forum having some vibes when he was reversing pitch during large rainbows ... it was due to the little play in the main shaft ... Maybe a "raod" to explore for your pb ?!...
If it's only the IKON then no pb you'll finds the right gains ...
Good luck on finding the solution ...

It's not a vibration. I'm using the iKon gov and it acts like the gain is too high. But dropping it doesn't seem to help. I switched to 8khz and I think it got better.

At 2200 RPM it doesn't bog at 13.5 pitch and pulls very hard. It's a really expensive motor though. Overkill. I'm really just as happy running a Quantum 4135. It's just 60g heavier.

OnTheSnap · 03-13-2013, 03:53 PM

Here's a video. Nothing special, but I tried to stick bang a lot so you could get a sense of the power system.

[ame]http://youtu.be/Izk6zvkgels[/ame]

Flydynamics · 03-13-2013, 04:01 PM

Snap, thx a lot to have taken time to do this.
I'm gonna go with the same set up 4225-550 .... love the power of the machine simply awesome ...

Bladecpnitro · 03-13-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheSnap

Here's a video. Nothing special, but I tried to stick bang a lot so you could get a sense of the power system.

http://youtu.be/Izk6zvkgels

Nice flight on the snap and a beautiful place to fly. I'm slowly gathering electronics for a Titan X50e myself.

OnTheSnap · 03-13-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladecpnitro

Nice flight on the snap and a beautiful place to fly. I'm slowly gathering electronics for a Titan X50e myself.

Thanks. It's a good machine, enjoy it. If they spiced up the canopy design it would probably have a profound effect on US sales.

I'll also say that it autos very well. In Vegas I found myself doing some pretty stupid autos with it. Lots of hang time and a very free drive system.

Bladecpnitro · 03-13-2013, 08:40 PM

I kind of like the air induction ports the canopy has. I'm not big on that stock green color though, I wish you could at least get the blue canopy with the e model when you buy it new.

I still have to get the kit I'm just gathering electronics right now. I thought eventually Id find a used one for sale but there is not one to be found at the moment.

OnTheSnap · 03-13-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladecpnitro

I kind of like the air induction ports the canopy has. I'm not big on that stock green color though, I wish you could at least get the blue canopy with the e model when you buy it new.

I still have to get the kit I'm just gathering electronics right now. I thought eventually Id find a used one for sale but there is not one to be found at the moment.

I think I got the only used one I've ever seen! ;-)

03-13-2013, 03:53 PM	#52 (permalink)
OnTheSnap Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NorCal	Here's a video. Nothing special, but I tried to stick bang a lot so you could get a sense of the power system. [ame]http://youtu.be/Izk6zvkgels[/ame] __________________ Xpert Scorpion Power Systems Helidirect

03-13-2013, 08:40 PM	#56 (permalink)
Bladecpnitro Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2011	I kind of like the air induction ports the canopy has. I'm not big on that stock green color though, I wish you could at least get the blue canopy with the e model when you buy it new. I still have to get the kit I'm just gathering electronics right now. I thought eventually Id find a used one for sale but there is not one to be found at the moment. __________________ If its fixed don't break it!

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03-09-2013, 05:36 PM	#43 (permalink)
WessCo Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2007	It should sling the grips out......probably not supposed to though.

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Flydynamics Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2011	Any video of the X50E and the 4225-550 ?

03-12-2013, 06:17 PM	#47 (permalink)
Flydynamics Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2011	Thx Tom, but not interested too much in seeing a sponsored pilot flying to tell you the truth ... I'm interested in guys like you and me who are not doing this for a living ;-) in a sense that we are not on the same league .... skills and material at disposition. Snap that will be cool ... sorry to hear you have trouble with heavy loading vibes ...

03-12-2013, 06:25 PM	#49 (permalink)
Flydynamics Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2011	Snap I've read a while ago about a guy on the other forum having some vibes when he was reversing pitch during large rainbows ... it was due to the little play in the main shaft ... Maybe a "raod" to explore for your pb ?!... If it's only the IKON then no pb you'll finds the right gains ... Good luck on finding the solution ...

03-13-2013, 04:01 PM	#53 (permalink)
Flydynamics Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2011	Snap, thx a lot to have taken time to do this. I'm gonna go with the same set up 4225-550 .... love the power of the machine simply awesome ...

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