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12-11-2013, 11:47 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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F450 post build questions
Spektrum DX7s transmitter
Spektrum AR7010 w/ sat receiver NAZA M lite The RX/FC jumpers don't fit the receiver so I absconded the jumpers out of another model. They are white on one side, red in the middle, and black on the other side. I have them on the receiver side with the white wire to the top of the plug and on the naza with the white wire down. I read somewhere the connections are inverted to each other between the RX and the FC. Is that correct? I did the receiver bind with the power on then pull the bind plug. The system when powered up flashes some green and some yellow, and a real fast red. Then it goes to a machine gun like yellow flashing. No response to any stick commands. I looked online and found it's in failsafe. I'm lost and walked away from it to keep from smashing it flat. Help please and in real simple terms. I'm feeling poorly today and the ole synapses ain't hitting on all connections. |
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12-11-2013, 12:55 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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You have to connect to the assistant software to calibrate your radio with the controller and set other parameters. Have you read the manual or watched the DJI setup video's yet?
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12-11-2013, 01:04 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Naza M Lite has the signal wire at the bottom
The AR7010 has the signal wire at the top (according to the online image I found) I have a F450 with Naza M Lite and an AR7000, the wires do indeed flip over I've got a nice DX7s spm file for the Naza M Lite that I spent ages on, would you like a copy? I used the 3 position flap switch for the 3 modes And the Gear switch to turn IOC off/on, the F Mode switch then selects Course Lock or Home Lock I've got Failsafe (Return to Home) set on the Mix/Hold switch Finally the last channel is set to adjust ail/elv gains in flight I've just been through the set up process for DX7s/AR7000 and DX8/AR8000 so it's fresh in my memory if you have any questions Don't forget to set up receiver failsafe once you've done everything else |
12-11-2013, 01:16 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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@ ES3 Not on the computer yet. Wanted to check motor rotation and connections first. I will as soon as I'm sure and get the top deck tied down.
@toys2cars2toys I would love to have a copy of that file. Would save me loads of time. Might get to sneak a fly in this afternoon after all. Thanks. |
12-11-2013, 01:48 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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Here you go
I had to use "Acro", aeroplane mode to get the mixes that I needed Gear ch > U Aux 1 > X2 Aux 2 > X1 You'll then need to check using assistant that each switch actuates each function correctly If it doesn't (for the above channels) you'll have to tweak either, end points, subtrim, of the mix values Always take your props off before using assistant, I think the USB is meant to inhibit the motors, but there's always a chance of error |
12-11-2013, 03:16 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Ok I got it downloaded. Let me get the lite version assistant downloaded and get this going.
I'll be back after while to let you know if it flys or not. |
12-11-2013, 05:33 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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Got the file installed on the DX7s. Thanks again for that.
Calibrated the sticks using the transmitter calibration feature. Says ok. Loaded up the assistant and read the setting on the MC first. Then calibrated the sticks and clicked on write. Checked the IMU and the settings are: 140 140 105 140 135 135 The GPS puck position wasn't set as the top deck remains to be installed. Left the battery alarms at default. Still getting the machine gun yellow flashes. Watching the slider on the bottom of the stick calibration page when I switch off the transmitter the slider goes full left. It's not hitting the failsafe in either position. Going back to the binding setup: I did the bind by installing the bind plug on the RX data port and powering it up. I then pulled out the bind plug and fired up the transmitter holding the bind button until it started binding then let it go. I always put about 6 to 8 feet between the TX and RX when binding. And it was done before doing anything else. I have a feeling a stick or something isn't right on the transmitter to set the failsafe. It says in the side panel to adjust the end points in the transmitter then bind. Could you elaborate on that cause I'm lost. I can set up multi thousand dollar computer systems but this seems to elude me. |
12-11-2013, 06:32 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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One answer then I'm off to bed!!!
Can you look at page 41 of the Naza L manual and let us know which LED code you are getting, there's not many yellow only codes OK can you... In assistant go to to the TX Cali page I may have had to reverse some servos, I can't remember where I did it, do check that the main 4 controls work in the correct direction as per the manual (this shouldn't improve the current problem - I just remembered it though) OK With the hold switch flicked back, as you move the Flap switch, under "control mode switch" the slider should move, the text box should be solid blue each time, if not play with endpoints for the outer two and subtrim for the middle Top position = GPS Middle = A Bottom = M Once you have this, then move the TX hold switch forward, one of the two "failsafes" should now be selected, if this doesn't work you'll need to play with the mixes, I'm not near my TX, I think it's mix 1 or 2 You can do the same process for IOC on the Autopilot tab, playing with the Gear and F mode switches Once all of this is operating correctly now you have to set the RX's failsafe preset Basically a special rebind, but with the TX switches in the failsafe positions Flick the Hold switch forward on the TX, leave it there Turn off the quad and TX Bind plug in, quad on, both RX and SAT should flash orange Leaving Quad powered, take the Bind plug out TX bind button down, TX on, when it says "Binding" you can then release the bind button If you get a warning on the TX that the Hold switch is on, then you'll have to go into TX Warnings and disable it for now, then repeat the above Power cycle quad and TX, reconnect assistant All of the switches should still operate the same, but when you switch the TX off, you should see it go to failsafe mode after a second or so Finally I've read and experienced that the fine tuning of the blue slider bars can change, theories are TX too close or assistant somehow effects it, you'll know because the LED mode indication will be off Hope this helps |
12-11-2013, 07:04 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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Thanks. I'll check this out after I get back from dinner. Been invited out for steak on the boss's dime.
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12-12-2013, 06:30 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Got the transmitter/receiver set up finally but with some issues. In GPS mode the motors do not respond to the throttle. In the other 2 positions they work just fine. Throttle is a little desensitized. On the low end it controls the motors but past mid range is just one speed. There's no noticeable change in the sound of the motors that would indicate revving up past mid range on the throttle stick.
I had it connected to the assistant and the 3 position switch works fine. The RTH switch works great also. But when I switch off the transmitter there is no response to the U slider. It remains on GPS. When the RTH switch is flipped it goes to the failsafe to the right of GPS. Still getting the machine gun yellows but now only in GPS mode. I would take it that's the no GPS lock and or compass out of calibration. I'm boning up on the manual to see but if you know would you tell me? Too late to fly tonight but morning isn't that far away. Thank you very much for your help. |
12-13-2013, 03:32 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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Yeah and still no joy. I'm boxing it up and tossing it in the dumpster. I've had enough of this stupid hobby.
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12-21-2013, 02:52 AM | #14 (permalink) |
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@ toys2cars2toys
One of my buds here saw me toss it in the dumpster and fished it out. He brought it back to me and I put it up for a week. Seems the staff and guests get a big kick out of me flying my toys out back. The owner here had a meeting with me about my temper. He also reminded me about my blood pressure. So after cooling off I got it back out and discovered what you were trying to tell me wasn't all that complicated after all. The trim on the low end of the gear was not high enough to push the pointer under GPS in the assistant. Wrote that out to the naza and put it back where it was in the transmitter. Rebind in safe mode and took it out to give it a go. Only thing I noticed was the naza LED didn't give me the rapid green LED to show it had locked in the home position. I've gotten used to my Phantom giving the rapid green LED. It flew very nice first time out. The default low battery cut the flight short. Didn't want to take a chance on damaging the battery. Two engineering flights later I finally hooked up my Phantom to it's assistant and copied down the battery settings. I applied those to the 450 and next flight out on a 3S 2200 25C battery, I got 12 minutes flight time. Just took it up to 100 feet or so and parked it. Solid as a rock. Back on the ground I checked the battery and it was barely warm. When I use the same batteries in my Phantom they get much warmer. I put my GoPro on and it couldn't get a lock. So here's where I stand at the moment. I'm fabricating a RF shield for the GPS puck. Bottom of a Styrofoam cup lined with foil. Should work. I owe your a debt of gratitude and an apology. I am sorry for being an ass and thank you for taking the time to help me. |
12-21-2013, 05:38 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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No apology needed and you never came across as an arse. I didn't think that you were being literal when you were ready to dump it. We all have moments like that, the hobby is meant to be relaxing, but sometimes I find that it winds me up and I have to walk away
I'm really glad that your friend saved it. I'm happy that I could help too. I found the amount of reading up and understanding was crazy, for what then turned out to be not that complicated once I understood it. Wiring and set up time on my first - about 3 days, on my second - about an hour! No 3 or 4 rapid green would be a worry for me Mine starts up with green and then multiple red flashes, less red as it acquires it's satellites and then finally green only. After about another 10 secs I get the 3 rapid green, then it returns to slower green flashes I live in the country but still it finds it hard to loose the last red if the quad is either near the house or I'm standing near it I also read that you should make sure that your GPS cable is not touching the battery cable |
11-22-2014, 10:17 AM | #16 (permalink) |
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Help im going crazy
Hi All, i am very new to all this so be gentle with me.
I downloaded the file into DX7S ,but the only thing i can't understand how to set the 3 position switch ,i have used the sub trim and got ATT to go blue but how do i get GPS and Manual at each end ? In one post it says use the "endpoints for the outer two" where do i find these end points to alter. Cheers Des desheardmbe@hotmail.co.uk |
01-11-2015, 07:21 PM | #17 (permalink) |
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going crazy just want to fly
i have a f450 and want to know if im able to use the controller and receiver from my qrx 350 pro as i cant get my kk black control board to do shit and i cant get the handle on my kk2.1 control board either its doing my head in i have the flip problem too and a laging motor when i use the kk2.1 control
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