Logo 700 release date?

[mahbouni]

I can wait til Feb for the 700. If they need the extra time to make it better then that's a good thing.

I saw Mikado released prices (999,00 EUR) for the Hughes 500 scale body. I would be very upset if I crashed that. Definitely a shelf queen.

[Funky242]

Originally Posted by mahbouni

I saw Mikado released prices (999,00 EUR) for the Hughes 500 scale body. I would be very upset if I crashed that. Definitely a shelf queen.

The 999 means that the real prices aren't released yet. They will not cost 999, I guess they would not sell many in that case...

[mahbouni]

Originally Posted by Funky242

The 999 means that the real prices aren't released yet. They will not cost 999, I guess they would not sell many in that case...

Of course... silly me. I should have know that's what they meant. Then again, ReadyHeli are listing it for $999.99

http://www.readyheli.com/MIK4363-Hug...r_p_37271.html

I do agree with you that would not sell many at that price.

[worldofmaya]

The price is what they want for it... they're build on demand. Interesting that Readyheli lists them, Mikado sells them on their own here in Europe.
-Klaus

[kdenn0181]

isn't the LOGO 600se a 700 size heli? cause it says it can takes 690mm blades so thats the same as my t-700 so if they coming out with a logo 700 is it just gunna be a 600se renamed basicly? or is it gunna be a bigger frame for bigger lipo setup

[helicraze]

Yes, but its just really stretched, it would be like selling the trex 600 calling it a SE and giving it longer boom/belt, not really ideal but gets the job done

[worldofmaya]

Originally Posted by helicraze

Yes, but its just really stretched, it would be like selling the trex 600 calling it a SE and giving it longer boom/belt, not really ideal but gets the job done

Like the Trex 800...from what one saw by now a Trex 700 stretched...
A L600SE is a 600 mechanics which has to withstand the power of 690 blades.
-Klaus

[wlfk]

Originally Posted by helicraze

Yes, but its just really stretched, it would be like selling the trex 600 calling it a SE and giving it longer boom/belt, not really ideal but gets the job done

Or putting a longer, wider boom on the logo 500 with different undercarriage and a bigger canopy, and calling it a logo 600.

[Blades345]

Originally Posted by wlfk

Or putting a longer, wider boom on the logo 500 with different undercarriage and a bigger canopy, and calling it a logo 600.

Thats the one thing I wish Mikado would do differently. I think the frames should be bigger on the Logo 600 than the 500. Aligns models are all different in their frames and everything else, but Mikado is the same for all.

[worldofmaya]

I like the frame size, you get everything into it (up to 12s 5000mAh) and a HK50xx... what else should a 600 carry?
-Klaus

[jhheli]

The frame size was another reason I like the logos, buying either 500 600 or 600se you don't have to do much to try or change into a bigger or smaller heli,

500 6s 5000 to 12s 600se if you wanted to, I thought this was one of the best ideas, makes it more simple and not have to have so many different parts.

Buying 1 of almost any other heli you will only have that heli and no options to change or not as wide variety, Blade maybe your just playing.

[worldofmaya]

And of course it's easy to have spare parts... other brands release every half a year new models and change things so that your 1 year old model is outdated and you have to search really hard to get a replacement or do an expensive upgrade.
-klaus

[Funky242]

Yep, agree with that !

I am flew my Logo500 for a year, changed it to a Logo500SE, and now I am shopping to get the things together to make it a Logo600SE.

Unfortunately, I made a wrong motorchoice when changing to the 500SE 12S setup, 4035-500 kV. The kV is too high, Id prefer a 400 kV for a 600SE.

[terrabit]

I certainly hope the 700 has a stronger one-way, perhaps a sprag system as are prevalent among other birds of this class. The current one-way is at its limits and maybe a bit beyond. They don't last long if you're banging it around on 12s. The frame, blade grips and belt system are at their limits as well, in my opinion. They certainly work but if Mikado is to produce a heli that will handle the advances in lipo and brushless technology with some margin for continued progress, the 700 will have to be substantially more robust than the current design. I'm surprised we haven't seen more catastrophic inflight failures as it is.

[NTM]

Uh, it kind of goes without saying that it will be more "robust".
They're building it to swing up to 800mm blades !
And they know that we're all power mongers...

The one way on the current 500/600 isn't really at it's limit persay, the rigid tdr uses the same one way bearing in a different hub with 710mm blades.

[jhheli]

Originally Posted by NTM

The one way on the current 500/600 isn't really at it's limit persay, the rigid tdr uses the same one way bearing in a different hub with 710mm blades.

Wow didn't no that, I had 1 fail on me since I had the logo, but didn't expect it to last threw the whole summer with all that power and getting snapped around alot.

[helicraze]

Originally Posted by NTM

Uh, it kind of goes without saying that it will be more "robust".
They're building it to swing up to 800mm blades !
And they know that we're all power mongers...

The one way on the current 500/600 isn't really at it's limit persay, the rigid tdr uses the same one way bearing in a different hub with 710mm blades.

Are you sure, it looks different

[wlfk]

Originally Posted by Blades345

Thats the one thing I wish Mikado would do differently. I think the frames should be bigger on the Logo 600 than the 500. Aligns models are all different in their frames and everything else, but Mikado is the same for all.

It's a good point, and one that I have wondered about in the past too. But at the end of the day, both the 500 and the 600 are very well respected despite the 'handicap' of the 500 being built around a frame that is large and strong enough for a much larger heli.

One way of looking at it is that the frames are really just built to hold servos, the motor, and the battery. Given that the servos for a 500 or 600 are the same, I wonder how much smaller and lighter a dedicated 500 frame would actually be?

In practice, there are already some 'frame' differences for the 500 or 600. The 600 'needs' the metal motor mount and arguably the counterbearing; the 500 doesn't. I think there are also differences in the amount of metal reinforcement when you build the 600 or 500 frames, though I haven't built a 500 and may be mistaken.

[terrabit]

I've gone through a few one-ways in my 600 over the past four years. In my experience this is a high wear area - relatively speaking ofcourse. Logos are definately low maintenance helis. Mine have gradually started slipping and progressively gotten worse until they had to be replaced.

The thing that ticks me off about Logo frames is their tendency to break where the landing gear attaches.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by helicraze

Are you sure, it looks different

Its Logo 600 one way, just supported by radials top and bottom with small thin spacers to, core of it is identical yes. Suprising isn't it how much more the bearing can take by having top bottom support and no side load, gotta give Jan credit there as it works just fine indeed.

I'm sure you TDR peeps see some parts on TDR are actually Mikado, it's no secret.

Anyhow back on topic, the 700 will rock out, no worries.