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Dmaxison · 08-23-2013, 10:27 AM

I just acquired a 500 that I would like to convert to flybarless. Can other flybarless heads be used? I'm aware of the MSH51335 and RJX head. I'm curious if Align, Tarot, or other heads can be used. I have a Tarot fbl head on another heli and have been pleased with the durability. I'm sure someone has been down this road already, I just haven't found the thread yet.

banditpowdercoat · 08-23-2013, 10:50 AM

Yes other heads can be used, but really, the stock low head is Awesome!!!
I just rebuilt form a 80ft inverted fall. Hit TH by accident. Just bent the spindle. Head completely fine.

tat2spyder · 08-23-2013, 06:48 PM

Why would you take an awesome Heli and throw junk on the head. If you are dead set on DFC (which I personally don't like) I would look toward a compass head. Otherwise stock or rjx

Dmaxison · 08-23-2013, 07:08 PM

Thanks for the responses so far. I appreciate the opinions however is there any issues with geometry when choosing a head like Compass, RJX, Tarot, Align, etc. I have a Tarot 500 FBL head that I installed on my beater Walkera V500 and have been really surprised with the durability. It's crashed 3 times, once inverted, and made out just fine. So again I'm more curious if there are issues with geometry. I will likely go with the MSH head but stock and parts are a little more challenging to find.

Jomaba4308 · 08-23-2013, 09:45 PM

Experiencerc.com, msh-direct.com, and elektrorc.com all sell Protos parts.
I have been using experience rc since HeliDirect stopped stocking parts.

1157 · 08-23-2013, 10:28 PM

I've been flying mine with a RJX head for quite a while. It flies nice.

Dmaxison · 08-24-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jomaba4308

Experiencerc.com, msh-direct.com, and elektrorc.com all sell Protos parts.
I have been using experience rc since HeliDirect stopped stocking parts.

Thanks, I see a lot in stock at Experience! Besides a feathering shaft, is there anything else needed when converting?

Jomaba4308 · 08-24-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmaxison

Thanks, I see a lot in stock at Experience! Besides a feathering shaft, is there anything else needed when converting?

Spacers on the feathering shaft between the head block & grips, long stand link balls, swash driver arms, the block the driver arms mount to. There might be more but that is the big stuff, also there is an upgrade kit that comes with everything needed.
Part # MSH51115

MSH-Direct · 08-24-2013, 03:42 PM

If you start with the low head (MSH51335) all you need is MSH51118, 51119, 51120.
If you have a stock length Protos the low head is not recommended and all you need is MSH51115 FBL upgrade kit.

Jomaba4308 · 08-24-2013, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSH-Direct

If you start with the low head (MSH51335) all you need is MSH51118, 51119, 51120.
If you have a stock length Protos the low head is not recommended and all you need is MSH51115 FBL upgrade kit.

I didn't even think of that because I'm still running stock length, but I will eventually stretch after getting carbon fiber frame

ktm520 · 08-24-2013, 08:19 PM

If you have an aftermarket head on hand, why not try it? Can't hurt and if your proficient with mechanical setup, low risk. The 51115 kit to convert the fb head is a no brainer, just did it myself. But, if you are planning stretch, I'd hold of and buy the low head and stretch kit.

overhead · 01-12-2015, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MSH-Direct

If you start with the low head (MSH51335) all you need is MSH51118, 51119, 51120.
If you have a stock length Protos the low head is not recommended and all you need is MSH51115 FBL upgrade kit.

Why is the low head(MSH51335) not recommended with a stock Protos???

Jomaba4308 · 01-12-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by overhead

Why is the low head(MSH51335) not recommended with a stock Protos???

It brings the main blades very close to hitting the tail rotor and probably will during some maneuvers.

Louis D · 10-18-2020, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSH-Direct

If you start with the low head (MSH51335) all you need is MSH51118, 51119, 51120.
If you have a stock length Protos the low head is not recommended and all you need is MSH51115 FBL upgrade kit.

I have an original plastic frame one .I want to keep it stock shaft but convert to flybarless for scale bird . what do i need .where can i fine how to do it .THu Please help

Lou

08-23-2013, 10:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dmaxison Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2012	Protos 500 Flybarless head options I just acquired a 500 that I would like to convert to flybarless. Can other flybarless heads be used? I'm aware of the MSH51335 and RJX head. I'm curious if Align, Tarot, or other heads can be used. I have a Tarot fbl head on another heli and have been pleased with the durability. I'm sure someone has been down this road already, I just haven't found the thread yet. __________________ *Team Only Fine Helis* Flown on Jeti DS-16, Brain2, RCHN #222 MKS Servos, Scorpion Tribunus, MSH P700, Synergy e5s, N5cTT

08-23-2013, 10:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
banditpowdercoat Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2010	Yes other heads can be used, but really, the stock low head is Awesome!!! I just rebuilt form a 80ft inverted fall. Hit TH by accident. Just bent the spindle. Head completely fine. __________________ Dan Pesonen FBL, Don't think about it, DO IT. mCX2, nCPX, mCP X, Blade 400, MSH PRÔTOS, T-700N "Tri-Flow" I put that S*** on everything!"

08-23-2013, 06:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
tat2spyder Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2012	Why would you take an awesome Heli and throw junk on the head. If you are dead set on DFC (which I personally don't like) I would look toward a compass head. Otherwise stock or rjx __________________ I'd rather build 'em than fly 'em

08-23-2013, 07:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dmaxison Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Oct 2012	Thanks for the responses so far. I appreciate the opinions however is there any issues with geometry when choosing a head like Compass, RJX, Tarot, Align, etc. I have a Tarot 500 FBL head that I installed on my beater Walkera V500 and have been really surprised with the durability. It's crashed 3 times, once inverted, and made out just fine. So again I'm more curious if there are issues with geometry. I will likely go with the MSH head but stock and parts are a little more challenging to find. __________________ *Team Only Fine Helis* Flown on Jeti DS-16, Brain2, RCHN #222 MKS Servos, Scorpion Tribunus, MSH P700, Synergy e5s, N5cTT

08-23-2013, 09:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jomaba4308 Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States	Experiencerc.com, msh-direct.com, and elektrorc.com all sell Protos parts. I have been using experience rc since HeliDirect stopped stocking parts. __________________ Team Lynx Heli Field Rep XL Protos 380

08-23-2013, 10:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
1157 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2008	I've been flying mine with a RJX head for quite a while. It flies nice.

08-24-2013, 03:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
MSH-Direct Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2011	If you start with the low head (MSH51335) all you need is MSH51118, 51119, 51120. If you have a stock length Protos the low head is not recommended and all you need is MSH51115 FBL upgrade kit.

08-24-2013, 08:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
ktm520 Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2006	If you have an aftermarket head on hand, why not try it? Can't hurt and if your proficient with mechanical setup, low risk. The 51115 kit to convert the fb head is a no brainer, just did it myself. But, if you are planning stretch, I'd hold of and buy the low head and stretch kit.

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