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DebianDog · 03-30-2005, 09:53 AM

I am debating doing an electric setup for aerial photography. I figure it will not "scare the locals" as much as a gasser or glow does

Plus, as an added bonus... less vibration and no smoke/residue.

A typical still shoot of a site could probably be complete in under 7 minutes but I was wondering if the electrics would be capable enough to pull up a few pounds of equipment and still be able to fly stable enough to take some pictures.

Anyone doing this or am I treading new ground here?

charles · 03-30-2005, 03:35 PM

Dan,

The Joker is capable of hauling 5lbs rated and there are a few that are flying it fully loaded near 20lbs.... There are also a couple of people configuring the logo 14 for still shooting and there is an electric conversion voyager 50 that is also used. The most commonly used electric machine is the joker but there are others in service.

Thanks

Charles

Garland · 03-30-2005, 06:34 PM

yeh on the Hi end is the joker CX/maxi. Pull out your wallet for that caliber of Eheli. Very nice tho!

I am plannin a stretch of my Logo 20 to make it 60 sized 680mm blades, bionic 24 tail boom 8s4p lipos. A HCS 60 3x cam mount, it could handle mini DV vid and DSLR still cams easily and get good flight time.

DebianDog · 03-31-2005, 05:55 AM

Well with battery technology advancing like it is perhaps it will not be so expensive as the months roll on. :mrgreen:

WOW I just found this video http://www.e-helis.com/FXA_Joker1.wmv

VERY IMPRESSIVE!

Garland · 04-03-2005, 10:05 PM

Well Dan,
now that I have a nice capable Orbit charger, the Ehelis/ESC/motor, i think it would equal out to a nitro heli costs as I go.

I feel the cost isnt that outta line with a 90 nitro bird. And WAY more potential for performance with a E heli.

Is Joker what ya lookin at?

DebianDog · 04-04-2005, 01:57 PM

Yep the Joker is sweet! I have seen some AWESOME and quiet video from a few owners of the Joker. All the pilots seem to be happy with them and that says a lot.

Depending on the Tax refund this year I may have to pick one up. Guess I should get busy only 10 days left!!!

Tabbytabb · 04-08-2005, 12:24 AM

Joker rules for AP, My CX on 720s is 16lbs RTF and has hauled that weight for 400+ flights now. Havent had to replace a single part other then the tail slider bushing. Gotta love electric!

Tabb

Albig · 06-13-2005, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tabbytabb

Joker rules for AP, My CX on 720s is 16lbs RTF and has hauled that weight for 400+ flights now. Havent had to replace a single part other then the tail slider bushing. Gotta love electric!

Tabb

Hey Tabb,

Are you running those 720s with no modifications?

Al

Tabbytabb · 06-14-2005, 01:18 AM

Al, yep no mods. Keep in mind this one stays skids down

On another topic I just got some "special" parts in from Gerd

Can you say 950s

Oh, BTW the CX passed 500 flights

Tabb

WillJames · 06-14-2005, 05:36 AM

Did you have to add a bunch of weight to the front to get it to balance correctly with the long boom and 950's Tabb?

Garland · 06-15-2005, 01:16 AM

950mm mains!!??

GEEZ! did ya make any changes to the gearing/motor to swing blades like that? same headblock?
What headspeed are ya gonna run at?

fitenfyr · 06-15-2005, 01:19 AM

Oh now this I am gonna have to see.

Better be bringing that down south this weekend there Tabb.

Tabbytabb · 06-16-2005, 12:56 AM

Guys, the super joker is a work in progress. I am not going to go to 950s initially but will be working my way up from 800s and playing with gearing and motor/batt setup to try and find that magical setup that will fly a 30lb AUW with moderate power reserve for the lowest watts possible.

In all probability the setup will be a 32-4 spinning 850s or so around 1200 to begin with. Depending on results I will change as neccesary. I would love to just try it on 950s at some point just to see how it works.

NRI is using some 850 MAH blades I saw with good results. I may give these a try initially.

The 950s reference was just made because that is the maximum blade size that the new tail boom will accomodate.

I will let you know when there is progress.

Tabb

GGoodrum · 07-17-2005, 12:00 AM

Definitely something for the "BAM", Tabb.

I'll talk to Steve about it.

-- Gary

Tabbytabb · 07-20-2005, 04:50 PM

Thanks Gary!

It will also probably need some 12s4p prolites

On a serious note the airframe is going together. I will get some pics soon and upload them.

The tailboom on this thing just looks ridiculous

Tabb

DebianDog · 07-21-2005, 09:28 AM

Pics AND video please

DebianDog · 10-04-2005, 06:32 AM

What motor and ESC you running with these AP setups?

03-30-2005, 09:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
DebianDog Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2005	Suggestions for a electric AP setup I am debating doing an electric setup for aerial photography. I figure it will not "scare the locals" as much as a gasser or glow does Plus, as an added bonus... less vibration and no smoke/residue. A typical still shoot of a site could probably be complete in under 7 minutes but I was wondering if the electrics would be capable enough to pull up a few pounds of equipment and still be able to fly stable enough to take some pictures. Anyone doing this or am I treading new ground here? __________________ Dan Da Dawg - JR X9303 Hexa F550 on 3S + 6S TREX 500 + 6S TREX 600 + Blade mSR + Blade mCPx2 Brushless + 12S Rave FBL ENV

03-31-2005, 05:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
DebianDog Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2005	Well with battery technology advancing like it is perhaps it will not be so expensive as the months roll on. :mrgreen: WOW I just found this video http://www.e-helis.com/FXA_Joker1.wmv VERY IMPRESSIVE! __________________ Dan Da Dawg - JR X9303 Hexa F550 on 3S + 6S TREX 500 + 6S TREX 600 + Blade mSR + Blade mCPx2 Brushless + 12S Rave FBL ENV

04-04-2005, 01:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
DebianDog Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2005	Yep the Joker is sweet! I have seen some AWESOME and quiet video from a few owners of the Joker. All the pilots seem to be happy with them and that says a lot. Depending on the Tax refund this year I may have to pick one up. Guess I should get busy only 10 days left!!! __________________ Dan Da Dawg - JR X9303 Hexa F550 on 3S + 6S TREX 500 + 6S TREX 600 + Blade mSR + Blade mCPx2 Brushless + 12S Rave FBL ENV

04-08-2005, 12:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
Tabbytabb Registered Users Join Date: May 2004	Joker rules for AP, My CX on 720s is 16lbs RTF and has hauled that weight for 400+ flights now. Havent had to replace a single part other then the tail slider bushing. Gotta love electric! Tabb __________________ www.freeflycinema.com

06-14-2005, 01:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tabbytabb Registered Users Join Date: May 2004	Al, yep no mods. Keep in mind this one stays skids down On another topic I just got some "special" parts in from Gerd Can you say 950s Oh, BTW the CX passed 500 flights Tabb __________________ www.freeflycinema.com

03-30-2005, 03:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
charles Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004	Dan, The Joker is capable of hauling 5lbs rated and there are a few that are flying it fully loaded near 20lbs.... There are also a couple of people configuring the logo 14 for still shooting and there is an electric conversion voyager 50 that is also used. The most commonly used electric machine is the joker but there are others in service. Thanks Charles

03-30-2005, 06:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Garland Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004	yeh on the Hi end is the joker CX/maxi. Pull out your wallet for that caliber of Eheli. Very nice tho! I am plannin a stretch of my Logo 20 to make it 60 sized 680mm blades, bionic 24 tail boom 8s4p lipos. A HCS 60 3x cam mount, it could handle mini DV vid and DSLR still cams easily and get good flight time.

04-03-2005, 10:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Garland Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004	Well Dan, now that I have a nice capable Orbit charger, the Ehelis/ESC/motor, i think it would equal out to a nitro heli costs as I go. I feel the cost isnt that outta line with a 90 nitro bird. And WAY more potential for performance with a E heli. Is Joker what ya lookin at?

06-14-2005, 05:36 AM	#10 (permalink)
WillJames Registered User My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004	Did you have to add a bunch of weight to the front to get it to balance correctly with the long boom and 950's Tabb? __________________ William James Crazy wife still trying to kill me.

06-15-2005, 01:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
Garland Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004	950mm mains!!?? GEEZ! did ya make any changes to the gearing/motor to swing blades like that? same headblock? What headspeed are ya gonna run at?

06-15-2005, 01:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
fitenfyr Join Date: Apr 2004	Oh now this I am gonna have to see. Better be bringing that down south this weekend there Tabb.

06-16-2005, 12:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
Tabbytabb Registered Users Join Date: May 2004	Guys, the super joker is a work in progress. I am not going to go to 950s initially but will be working my way up from 800s and playing with gearing and motor/batt setup to try and find that magical setup that will fly a 30lb AUW with moderate power reserve for the lowest watts possible. In all probability the setup will be a 32-4 spinning 850s or so around 1200 to begin with. Depending on results I will change as neccesary. I would love to just try it on 950s at some point just to see how it works. NRI is using some 850 MAH blades I saw with good results. I may give these a try initially. The 950s reference was just made because that is the maximum blade size that the new tail boom will accomodate. I will let you know when there is progress. Tabb __________________ www.freeflycinema.com

07-17-2005, 12:00 AM	#14 (permalink)
GGoodrum Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004	Definitely something for the "BAM", Tabb. I'll talk to Steve about it. -- Gary __________________ -- Gary www.tppacks.com

07-20-2005, 04:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tabbytabb Registered Users Join Date: May 2004	Thanks Gary! It will also probably need some 12s4p prolites On a serious note the airframe is going together. I will get some pics soon and upload them. The tailboom on this thing just looks ridiculous Tabb

07-21-2005, 09:28 AM	#16 (permalink)
DebianDog Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2005	Pics AND video please __________________ Dan Da Dawg - JR X9303 Hexa F550 on 3S + 6S TREX 500 + 6S TREX 600 + Blade mSR + Blade mCPx2 Brushless + 12S Rave FBL ENV

10-04-2005, 06:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
DebianDog Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2005	What motor and ESC you running with these AP setups? __________________ Dan Da Dawg - JR X9303 Hexa F550 on 3S + 6S TREX 500 + 6S TREX 600 + Blade mSR + Blade mCPx2 Brushless + 12S Rave FBL ENV

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