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Old 12-02-2008, 11:15 AM   #61
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Four new videos posted! They are listed in the first post but here is a link to them.

Step 3 Main gear install and swash plate
Video Link ->Step 3, Main Gear and Swash (56 Megs)

Step 4 will be in 4 parts a-c and a head setup
Video Link ->Step 4a, Washout Assembly (37 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 4b, Seesaw and Flybar Assembly (65 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 4c, Head and Main Grips (67 Megs)
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:14 PM   #62
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Bob, I think it would be sweet if after you got it all built and test fly/review it, put that sk360 on it and do a flybarless test, this heli is just beggin for it. Next gen heli on next gen cyclic control... DECENT!
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:51 PM   #63
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Great vids Bob! Had a protos for awhile now, so this is jogging my memory a bit. Looking forward to the rest.
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Old 12-06-2008, 09:21 AM   #64
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Finless,

Here is a quick tip, when you install the landing gear struts, grab 2 small washers out of the spares bag, and put them between the gear and the frame. Gives that canopy a little more room in that area, so you don't have to force it on.

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Old 12-06-2008, 09:24 AM   #65
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Hey thanks for the tip! I will use that....

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Old 12-06-2008, 11:53 AM   #66
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Default Help W/understanding "integrated chinese weights built in"

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I donīt think that chinese weights are needed for the protos, because the lightweight tailbladeholder donīt produce that much countermomentum. I donīt have any problems with the not-that-strong-S9257 on the tail so far.
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The tail grips have integrated chinese weights built in.
Will someone please elaborate (explain to newbie) on the Protos either having built in counterbalance weights / lightweight "tailbladeholder" (I'm assuming this is the tail blade grips) or the combination?

I have attached examples from Fireup's tail mod post as examples of a weighted counterbalance as well as a couple Protos images.

I just don't see the "integration" of weight as a counterbalance.

I have a full size tail servo (401/9254) and the only problems I have had is inexperienced thumbs.

I just don't understand and would be grateful of some insight.

Also, is there a good way to test static buildup?

Again not experiencing any problems just curious.

Thanks Bradey
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:57 AM   #67
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yes good point. I thought this was part of the "new" kit yet I did not have anythng that appeared to be weighted tail grips.

I did notice that unlike Finless's kit where he used just one .020 washer on the head I had 2 .010 washers instead (in two separate places on my heli.

I am wondering if I did indeed get an older kit.
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Old 12-07-2008, 01:13 PM   #68
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Mainshaft is a darker blackish color ?
tail case to fin bolt holes molded into the tail case nice and round ?
maingrips won't assemble like newer manual ( bearing/grip/thrust/bearing) (not bearing/grip/bearing/thrust)

old kit

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new kit has shiney steel hollow mainshaft
tail case has the bolt holes reinforced with a plastic gusset
maingrips will go togeather like manual says.

If it's an older kit , just contact the vendor , the update kit is free

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Old 12-07-2008, 08:56 PM   #69
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cool new kit here. I was pretty sure I had it, I do trust my shop, just had no way until now to identify it. Thanks
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:01 PM   #70
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subscribed. New protos expected thursday.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:22 AM   #71
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I am going to build it completely stock first and see if I have a static problem or not. Same for any tail weight mods, etc....

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I experienced a static problem with mine setup stock. I'm not running a 2.4ghz system, instead I have JR PCM gear on 53mhz (HAM) which worked without a problem. Now I DID have issues with the JR 7703d where it would violently swing nose right and stop, work ok for a few seconds only to swing again...
So to fix this I soldered a wire to a strip of brass shim stock, rubbed off the black anodiziation under the tail servo clamp, slipped in the shim there. Ran the wire to a motor mount screew. Once the boom was bonded with the belt through the motor mount my problem was eliminated.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:13 AM   #72
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Build completed- waiting on electronics. My final purchase will be the lipo pack(s)
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:59 PM   #73
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Good looking heli simmer can you post what you think when you get it flying I am really interested in this as my next one!!!
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:15 AM   #74
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Nice canopy. good bright colors. The stock canopy looks good the ground but it's a hard find in the air

Is that a canmod unit ? for the protos or maby a 500 canopy made to fit ?

I haven't seens any canopy's for the protos yet.

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Old 12-10-2008, 05:51 AM   #75
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Nice heli!,
Those are Protos GF canopies btw.
They have a seperate MSH section at Canomod.

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Old 12-10-2008, 07:49 AM   #76
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Canomod but, I find it extremly heavy. No batery in it, just the motor and with the added weight of this canopy, it actually sat on the skids as opposed to sitting back on the tail skid. Not sure how much of a problem this might be.

I realy liked the stock canopy, but mine came in cracked in three places. I am waiting on the replacement. Ill prb weigh it up and post later. Also it doesnt fit, I ll need to dremmel it in the center to allow it to come back far enough to fit the posts. Very durable, but very heavy. Could be a detriment.
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:11 AM   #77
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Hmm I have caught up with the videos for now and am at the stage of just finishing 4c. I think i will crack on this weekend unfortunately with no vids Still I can always go back and review what I did with what Finless did.
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:32 AM   #78
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You will be happy... Later today I will have a TON up and in fact may finish today

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Old 12-12-2008, 11:36 AM   #79
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Thanks very much for doing these videos Bob. I can't build mine till after Christmas, its a present. I have been watching the videos though, I think I will be able to build mine with my eyes closed.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:09 PM   #80
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I finished mine last Saturday and If I was to give you one word of advice, make sure you check the sizes of the parts with a ruler or caliper because there are some parts, screws and other things that are very close in size.
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