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Old 05-05-2013, 09:31 PM   #1
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Default Help with 550e Setup

Guys, I am really having a hard time hovering, my simulator is at 100% speed, and my heli is set up as shown below. I am ready to move onto flying a 550e outside and attempting to hover and land and just start the basics. I want to use the simulator to train as real as possible.

It like I can hover until i move ever so much then the heli is gone off side to side, I can recover and fly a bit, and land but I want to hover.

Any suggestions? need to see more I will do my best to get you what you need to see.









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Old 05-06-2013, 12:45 AM   #2
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In the main Rotor section try setting:

Minimum pitch to -3
Mid pitch to +3
Positive pitch to 8
Hovering Stability to 100 or 105


In the Flybarless section try setting:

Agility to 75
Response to 65
Gain to 70
and put a check in the Auto Trim Box

In the Fine tuning Section try setting:

Lift tuning 95
Tail wash tuning to 45 or 50



If you do not have any expo set in your radio you should set some expo.

Try 20 for Aileron and Elevator 15 for the Rudder

Bring the throttle up and it should start to get light at just past mid stick.When this happens keep on coming up with the throttle and give the aileron a slight bump to the right just as it breaks ground. That slight bump will help you by stopping the left movement of the Heli.

Remember to keep your stick movements small, watch the Heli, if it starts to drift give it a small correction and return the stick to center, if it keeps moving in the same direction make another small correction. Try and anticipate what it will do next. if it stops, that's good, if it changes direction then you gave it to much, small correction the other way is in order.

My adjustment suggestions will tame the machine down. You should be getting rid of the training wheels in short order.

ROG

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Old 05-06-2013, 07:11 PM   #3
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WOW... I couldn't find "Positive Pitch" so I set "Maximum Pitch" but what a difference. I am not sure how to setup my Tx expo either.

Can my real one be set up for all the same settings?
Will this unit fly just like this in real life?

I took off all the training gear as well and my fly time has increased by 10-12 mins and I can land every time now.

I wish I could put up a video but my net is so slow.

I still plan on putting training gear on my real one, just till i get it hovering comfortably.

Thanks so much!

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In the main Rotor section try setting:

Minimum pitch to -3
Mid pitch to +3
Positive pitch to 8
Hovering Stability to 100 or 105


In the Flybarless section try setting:

Agility to 75
Response to 65
Gain to 70
and put a check in the Auto Trim Box

In the Fine tuning Section try setting:

Lift tuning 95
Tail wash tuning to 45 or 50



If you do not have any expo set in your radio you should set some expo.

Try 20 for Aileron and Elevator 15 for the Rudder

Bring the throttle up and it should start to get light at just past mid stick.When this happens keep on coming up with the throttle and give the aileron a slight bump to the right just as it breaks ground. That slight bump will help you by stopping the left movement of the Heli.

Remember to keep your stick movements small, watch the Heli, if it starts to drift give it a small correction and return the stick to center, if it keeps moving in the same direction make another small correction. Try and anticipate what it will do next. if it stops, that's good, if it changes direction then you gave it to much, small correction the other way is in order.

My adjustment suggestions will tame the machine down. You should be getting rid of the training wheels in short order.

ROG
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:27 PM   #4
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What Tx are you using? If it is a DX6i you just need to set some expo in the model you are using for the sim. Glad the other settings helped you out.

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Old 05-07-2013, 12:55 PM   #5
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WOW... I couldn't find "Positive Pitch" so I set "Maximum Pitch" but what a difference. I am not sure how to setup my Tx expo either.

Can my real one be set up for all the same settings?
Will this unit fly just like this in real life?

I took off all the training gear as well and my fly time has increased by 10-12 mins and I can land every time now.

I wish I could put up a video but my net is so slow.

I still plan on putting training gear on my real one, just till i get it hovering comfortably.

Thanks so much!
Ideally you should try to "mimic" your real model to the one in Phoenix. E.g. if your real model is set up with 9 degrees max pitch, make the Phoenix model the same, and so on for mid and minimum pitch. Uncheck the "use preset throttle curve", if you want to use the curve in your Tx.

So set up the main parameters in Phoenix on the model as your real life model is set up, and use the same setting in your Tx as the ones you plan for your real model. Then Phoenix will behave pretty similar to real life.
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:59 PM   #6
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What Tx are you using? If it is a DX6i you just need to set some expo in the model you are using for the sim. Glad the other settings helped you out.

ROG
Spektrum DX7

I dont think im a fan of it....seems like i need to be a little "ruff" with the controls.
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Old 05-07-2013, 01:00 PM   #7
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Perfect thanks.

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Ideally you should try to "mimic" your real model to the one in Phoenix. E.g. if your real model is set up with 9 degrees max pitch, make the Phoenix model the same, and so on for mid and minimum pitch. Uncheck the "use preset throttle curve", if you want to use the curve in your Tx.

So set up the main parameters in Phoenix on the model as your real life model is set up, and use the same setting in your Tx as the ones you plan for your real model. Then Phoenix will behave pretty similar to real life.
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