Phoenix Setup FAQ - Page 10

TheBum · 12-16-2012, 01:33 PM

Yeah, that nut on the sticks seems to be the source of a lot of issues I have in the hobby.

J-Bone · 01-02-2013, 04:23 PM

I havce Phoenix 4... Are the models this touchy in real life. I cant even get the 130x in a hover and some other models like the scale models want to turn on me. I'm using very minimal cyclic movements, like flying a real helicopter, making a small circle and this thing is hovering in about a 10 foot circle. Not ideal. Any input to my question would be helpful. I could just be a terrible pilot. The only helicopter I have yet to hover properly are the mCPX and some 700 size model, which I really enjoy. haha

Thanks

TheBum · 01-02-2013, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Bone

I havce Phoenix 4... Are the models this touchy in real life. I cant even get the 130x in a hover and some other models like the scale models want to turn on me. I'm using very minimal cyclic movements, like flying a real helicopter, making a small circle and this thing is hovering in about a 10 foot circle. Not ideal. Any input to my question would be helpful. I could just be a terrible pilot. The only helicopter I have yet to hover properly are the mCPX and some 700 size model, which I really enjoy. haha

Thanks

With the default parameters, I think the models are a little too twitchy, but not by a whole lot. Hovering an RC heli has been compared to balancing a bowling ball on top of another bowling ball. With practice, you learn to anticipate where the heli is going to move and make corrections before it gets moving very fast in that direction. You'll also learn to make more subtle corrections and not over-correct.

J-Bone · 01-02-2013, 05:08 PM

Thanks!

whitehedr · 01-03-2013, 01:32 AM

I was having trouble hovering when I first got Phoenix. I could hover my real 450 but not the sim model. I took a couple of the lessons from CaptJac and since the have made huge increases in skill set and confidence.

As for the scale machines turnin' on you, check the Gyro setting and change it from Rate mode to HEading Hold mode. That should fix your problem there.

I found the Trex 500 in sport mode the best machine to learn on. The 130x is a twitchy little bas$&@) for me and I really have to concentrate hard to just move it around a little bit. I have better luck with the Goblin than I do with the 130x.

RWW

J-Bone · 01-03-2013, 05:32 PM

Awesome! This worked. Thanks again. I've been practicing for two days straight, nothing better to do before the semester starts. haha

lastofthefew · 01-07-2013, 05:18 PM

OMG made the adjustments recomended and my bird has never flown so good I can hover on the spot without working the sticks like a mad man and the physics are maxed to 100%

Thanks

newbrc · 01-30-2013, 02:57 PM

Hello what should my settings be on the DX6i when I connect it to the pheonix simulator? I do get that i had to make a different profile on my DX6i but what should my dr/expos, throttle curve, pitch? etc... I just can't get the MCPx sim to fly right..
Yeah I am a noob at this.. thanks for any help

newbrc · 01-30-2013, 04:58 PM

I also calibrated my DX6i with the Pheonix sim then what settings should i add on the setting in the simulator section?

Old Fart · 02-06-2013, 12:23 PM

Here's an odd one. I have Phoenix set up here at work on my laptop, and also at home. Installed from the same disc, did the upgrade on install, yada yada.

My JR 9303 shows up as a transmitter pick at home - not here?

LN400 · 02-09-2013, 09:05 AM

Newbrc: For calibration, make sure swash type is one servo 90* normal, both sticks are centered (throttle stick too), all expo are zero and all dual rates are 100. Both throttle and pitch curve should be linear 0-100 and any 3 way switch should be in the middle position.

Old Fart: In the Phoenix program folder, there is a file called
phoenixUSBdisplay.exe

Run it and see if the bars there move when you wiggle the sticks.

If you have more than one USB port on that laptop, try using another port.

Old Fart · 02-09-2013, 10:52 AM

Thanks. I went back and checked on this machine (home) evidently I created the JR 9303 as a Custom profile. Don't remember it - but I am getting old....

LN400 · 02-09-2013, 11:19 AM

good to hear it got sorted! As for memory, I was about to say something but I can't remember what it was! Yeah been there done that

Old Fart · 02-09-2013, 11:28 AM

Yep. Turning 55 on Monday, bought myself a 500E for a present. Outsmarted myself by sending it to work. Was delivered Friday at 0930 - but I forgot that it has to wind it's way through the LAX mail system

NSFlyer12 · 03-07-2013, 12:49 AM

I've been through this entire thread I can't seem to get TH and IU switches to work on my DX8. I know I'm missing something.

Digger1973 · 03-07-2013, 02:17 AM

Did you set your throttle curve etc in the model for the sim?

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NSFlyer12 · 03-07-2013, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digger1973

Did you set your throttle curve etc in the model for the sim?

Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 2

Yep did that.

TheBum · 03-07-2013, 10:42 AM

Did you make sure Throttle Hold is enabled in the transmitter? I know on my DX7 and X9303 that it's disabled by default when creating a new model.

As for IU, you have to make sure the model in the sim is not using the built-in curves and that the channel response in the transmitter setup in the sim is linear for throttle. Also, you have to make sure that the sim's IU is OFF; disable it in the sim's transmitter setup to be sure.

BigQ · 03-07-2013, 09:59 PM

Phoenix 4.0 arrived today as well as my new Hitec Aurora 9. Got the software installed on my laptop, updated direct x etc. Ran the install wizard everything went fine, opened up the sim plugged in the usb adapter device driver was installed correctly, I then proceeded to go through the radio switched to helicopter mode, set up the swash to single servo and named the model phoenix. Plugged in the adapter to the training jack, powered up the radio and went to try and calibrate it for the sim and it keeps telling me no transmitter is detected or something along those lines. This has me scratching my head as I can't seem to figure it out, I believe everything is in neutral and all trims are centered but I have nothing. I have the battery fully charged, should the training feature be enabled or disabled as currently it is disabled but I switched it back and forth and that didn't seem to make any difference either, it acts as thought he transmitter isn't even there although it states that the supplied cable works for the Aurora 9 and doesn't need an adapter? Any help is appreciated, thanks...Q

puzom · 03-09-2013, 09:56 AM

Helpful link for Hitec users Hitec Aurora 9 - Simulator Interface Function Set-up

12-16-2012, 01:33 PM	#181
TheBum HF Support Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: McKinney, TX, USA, North America, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way, Universe	Yeah, that nut on the sticks seems to be the source of a lot of issues I have in the hobby. __________________ Alan (just call me "Bum"; no need to be so formal) HeliFreak Support Nankin Hobby Field Rep, Compass Support Team Helis: Compass Atom 500 (V-Bar), Compass Atom 6HV (V-Bar), Blade 130X, Blade mCPX Experience is something you obtain only after you need it. I wouldn't mind social media so much if it didn't involve people.

01-02-2013, 04:23 PM	#182
J-Bone Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Lincoln, NE	Got a question? I havce Phoenix 4... Are the models this touchy in real life. I cant even get the 130x in a hover and some other models like the scale models want to turn on me. I'm using very minimal cyclic movements, like flying a real helicopter, making a small circle and this thing is hovering in about a 10 foot circle. Not ideal. Any input to my question would be helpful. I could just be a terrible pilot. The only helicopter I have yet to hover properly are the mCPX and some 700 size model, which I really enjoy. haha Thanks

01-30-2013, 02:57 PM	#188
newbrc Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois	Pheonix sim with DX6i Hello what should my settings be on the DX6i when I connect it to the pheonix simulator? I do get that i had to make a different profile on my DX6i but what should my dr/expos, throttle curve, pitch? etc... I just can't get the MCPx sim to fly right.. Yeah I am a noob at this.. thanks for any help

01-30-2013, 04:58 PM	#189
newbrc Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois	Pheonix sim with DX6i I also calibrated my DX6i with the Pheonix sim then what settings should i add on the setting in the simulator section?

02-06-2013, 12:23 PM	#190
Old Fart Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LAX	Here's an odd one. I have Phoenix set up here at work on my laptop, and also at home. Installed from the same disc, did the upgrade on install, yada yada. My JR 9303 shows up as a transmitter pick at home - not here? __________________ Jeff

01-02-2013, 05:08 PM	#184
J-Bone Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Lincoln, NE	Thanks!

01-03-2013, 01:32 AM	#185
whitehedr Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: IL, New Lenox	I was having trouble hovering when I first got Phoenix. I could hover my real 450 but not the sim model. I took a couple of the lessons from CaptJac and since the have made huge increases in skill set and confidence. As for the scale machines turnin' on you, check the Gyro setting and change it from Rate mode to HEading Hold mode. That should fix your problem there. I found the Trex 500 in sport mode the best machine to learn on. The 130x is a twitchy little bas$&@) for me and I really have to concentrate hard to just move it around a little bit. I have better luck with the Goblin than I do with the 130x. RWW

01-03-2013, 05:32 PM	#186
J-Bone Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Lincoln, NE	Awesome! This worked. Thanks again. I've been practicing for two days straight, nothing better to do before the semester starts. haha

01-07-2013, 05:18 PM	#187
lastofthefew Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: adelaide Australia	OMG made the adjustments recomended and my bird has never flown so good I can hover on the spot without working the sticks like a mad man and the physics are maxed to 100% Thanks

02-09-2013, 09:05 AM	#191
LN400 Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Norway	Newbrc: For calibration, make sure swash type is one servo 90* normal, both sticks are centered (throttle stick too), all expo are zero and all dual rates are 100. Both throttle and pitch curve should be linear 0-100 and any 3 way switch should be in the middle position. Old Fart: In the Phoenix program folder, there is a file called phoenixUSBdisplay.exe Run it and see if the bars there move when you wiggle the sticks. If you have more than one USB port on that laptop, try using another port. __________________ Blade 400, Blade CX2, Blade mCPx, Blade BL mCPx, Phoenix DX8 .... and... err... a plank

02-09-2013, 10:52 AM	#192
Old Fart Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LAX	Thanks. I went back and checked on this machine (home) evidently I created the JR 9303 as a Custom profile. Don't remember it - but I am getting old.... __________________ Jeff

02-09-2013, 11:19 AM	#193
LN400 Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Norway	good to hear it got sorted! As for memory, I was about to say something but I can't remember what it was! Yeah been there done that __________________ Blade 400, Blade CX2, Blade mCPx, Blade BL mCPx, Phoenix DX8 .... and... err... a plank

02-09-2013, 11:28 AM	#194
Old Fart Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LAX	Yep. Turning 55 on Monday, bought myself a 500E for a present. Outsmarted myself by sending it to work. Was delivered Friday at 0930 - but I forgot that it has to wind it's way through the LAX mail system __________________ Jeff

03-07-2013, 12:49 AM	#195
NSFlyer12 Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NS, Canada	I've been through this entire thread I can't seem to get TH and IU switches to work on my DX8. I know I'm missing something. __________________ T-Rex 500 DFC, T-Rex 600 DFC, T-Rex 450 DFC, PITA Blade 130X, Spektrum DX8

03-07-2013, 02:17 AM	#196
Digger1973 Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Cumberland County, NS, Canada	Re: Phoenix Setup FAQ Did you set your throttle curve etc in the model for the sim? Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 2 __________________ B400(retired) Mini Titan V1 Radikal G20

03-07-2013, 10:42 AM	#198
TheBum HF Support Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: McKinney, TX, USA, North America, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way, Universe	Did you make sure Throttle Hold is enabled in the transmitter? I know on my DX7 and X9303 that it's disabled by default when creating a new model. As for IU, you have to make sure the model in the sim is not using the built-in curves and that the channel response in the transmitter setup in the sim is linear for throttle. Also, you have to make sure that the sim's IU is OFF; disable it in the sim's transmitter setup to be sure. __________________ Alan (just call me "Bum"; no need to be so formal) HeliFreak Support Nankin Hobby Field Rep, Compass Support Team Helis: Compass Atom 500 (V-Bar), Compass Atom 6HV (V-Bar), Blade 130X, Blade mCPX Experience is something you obtain only after you need it. I wouldn't mind social media so much if it didn't involve people.

03-07-2013, 09:59 PM	#199
BigQ Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Omaha,NE	Phoenix 4.0 arrived today as well as my new Hitec Aurora 9. Got the software installed on my laptop, updated direct x etc. Ran the install wizard everything went fine, opened up the sim plugged in the usb adapter device driver was installed correctly, I then proceeded to go through the radio switched to helicopter mode, set up the swash to single servo and named the model phoenix. Plugged in the adapter to the training jack, powered up the radio and went to try and calibrate it for the sim and it keeps telling me no transmitter is detected or something along those lines. This has me scratching my head as I can't seem to figure it out, I believe everything is in neutral and all trims are centered but I have nothing. I have the battery fully charged, should the training feature be enabled or disabled as currently it is disabled but I switched it back and forth and that didn't seem to make any difference either, it acts as thought he transmitter isn't even there although it states that the supplied cable works for the Aurora 9 and doesn't need an adapter? Any help is appreciated, thanks...Q

03-09-2013, 09:56 AM	#200
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