Phoenix Setup FAQ

[scoobiemario]

Good info!! Thanks All!

[puzom]

If you have a problem you can always mail them and they will help.

Support site: http://www.phoenix-sim.com/support.htm
Sim manual c:\Program Files\PhoenixRC\resources\manual\EN\
Creator manual c:\Program Files\PhoenixRC\resources\phoenixCreator\manual\

[puzom]

DX6i

This works for me when flying PLANES and getting gear + flaps to work OK:

1)
Create new Acro model in DX6i (call it CALIACRO or something as you will be using this for calibration in the sim only), leave all DX6i settings default except Flaps, set that to 0=0% and 1=100%

2)
Use CALIACRO model in DX6i and make sure switches are in their 0 position. Start PhoenixRC, add new controller and follow steps.
Make sure to apply the correct channels for gear and flaps in your Profile.
In this case you should get 100% flaps and gear etc.

Now you're set to pick any Acro setup you have in your DX6i and use it on the sim. Eg with dual rates, expo etc. set as you want it.
Note: all the d/r switches will not show up in the calibration process, but they do work. To test this, eg set your rudder to 70% d/r in position 0 and 100% in position 1, select "Your transmitter" from System menu in the sim, apply rudder and when you hit the rud d/r switch the bar should move to 100%.

Important tip: for calibration you should always use the CALIACRO, this way the sim knows all the correct max/min values. If you use a modified DX6i setup, the sim might read values wrong, e.g. when you have set Dual Rates, expo etc.

3)
For me it always worked best to create a new heli and plane profile for your transmitter in PhoenixRC.
Specially in 2.5V, as DX6i profile changes have been made.
To do so:

- Open the system > your controls menu from within Phoenix
- Click the New button
- Type a name for your radio
- Make sure that Quick Setup is highlighted
- Click Continue
- Follow the onscreen instructions to setup a new control profile

[ssrobzoom]

I have a friend who is having trouble configuring his phoenix.

He flies mode one and has a Futaba 9ZHP. Can anyone shed light on how to setup the Phoenix for Mode one control?

[SamF]

New here and back flying after 17 years. Loaded Phoenix today with a dx6i tx and everything works great. Set up am msr and sr and they were a lot harder than the real ones. went in and set expo and sensitivity and now they fly like the real ones. this should be a great help for me and even the trims worked. I am loving this thing

[Linguistic]

Originally Posted by keepflying_jc

Q: I can't get Phoenix to recognize my transmitter. It keeps telling me to reconnect or switch on my transmitter.

A: Don't forget to use the extra plug that converts the dongle from stereo input to mono input. Most transmitters only accept a mono plug.

("Oh! So that's what this extra little plug is for!!!)



Q: I'm still having trouble getting IdleUp/ThrottleHold to work correctly.

A: Do what Alan says in post #1!!!
- Make sure the software mapping (System>Your controls>"your transmitter">Edit) has the IdleUp and Throttle Hold input set to "Unmapped".
- In addition, make sure the software mapping matches your transmitter for Throttle and Collective pitch. For example, on a Futaba transmitter, Throttle input should be mapped to "Controller channel 3", and Collective Pitch input should be mapped to "Controller channel 6". This is because a Futaba system uses channel3 for Throttle and channel6 for Collective Pitch. (This was key for me, because I had both Throttle and CollectivePitch mapped to channel3, which is NOT correct.)
- Now use your transmitter, NOT the Phoenix software, to configure your IdleUp and ThrottleHold functions.

Just sharing my "stumbles" getting it to work, even after reading all your help.

- In addition, make sure the software mapping matches your transmitter for Throttle and Collective pitch. For example, on a Futaba transmitter, Throttle input should be mapped to "Controller channel 3", and Collective Pitch input should be mapped to "Controller channel 6". This is because a Futaba system uses channel3 for Throttle and channel6 for Collective Pitch. (This was key for me, because I had both Throttle and CollectivePitch mapped to channel3, which is NOT correct.)
- Now use your transmitter, NOT the Phoenix software, to configure your IdleUp and ThrottleHold functions.


I have a DX6i and believe this channel mapping could also be why 3d won't work for me. The SIM is assigning channel 1 for Collective Pitch and Throttle but I can't find what the tramsitter channel assignments.

[MulliganAl]

Originally Posted by Linguistic

- In addition, make sure the software mapping matches your transmitter for Throttle and Collective pitch. For example, on a Futaba transmitter, Throttle input should be mapped to "Controller channel 3", and Collective Pitch input should be mapped to "Controller channel 6". This is because a Futaba system uses channel3 for Throttle and channel6 for Collective Pitch. (This was key for me, because I had both Throttle and CollectivePitch mapped to channel3, which is NOT correct.)
- Now use your transmitter, NOT the Phoenix software, to configure your IdleUp and ThrottleHold functions.


I have a DX6i and believe this channel mapping could also be why 3d won't work for me. The SIM is assigning channel 1 for Collective Pitch and Throttle but I can't find what the tramsitter channel assignments.

I was having a problem figuring out which channels were assigned, or should be assigned, on my DX8 also, When I plugged it in the throttle was set to 1 and pitch was set to 6.

I set throttle and pitch to 1, elevator 3, aileron 2 and rudder 4. I hope this is correct because the default setting were not working.

[see_e_oh]

Any suggestions on setting up a JR 11X?

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I just set up as DSX9 and followed the TheBum's instructions on p1 of this thread.

To get my Normal throttle curve to operate correctly, had to check the box in the model setup to use built-in throttle curve -- so NOR, ST-1 and ST-2 are all controlled by the 11X.

Also, since my Normal pitch curve is -5deg to +12deg (about 30% - 50% - 100%), I had to recalibrate the transmitter in ST-1 which has a linear curve from 0-100%.

Flight modes, and throttle hold worked perfectly after "unmapping" in the Sim TX settings as suggested.

Then I spent a lot of time fine tuning the physics of the 550E 3G model to match my 550E FBL Mini vBar heli. Got it pretty close. I'll keep tweaking.

Great thread guys! Thanks for all the help... and have to admit this is an awesome sim!

[gelatmi1]

Somebody of you know how to do a cable to connect the Phoenix sim to a DX5e old (trainer port on the left side) ??
....type of connectors and electric connections i have to do

thanks in advance

[TheBum]

Originally Posted by gelatmi1

Somebody of you know how to do a cable to connect the Phoenix sim to a DX5e old (trainer port on the left side) ??
....type of connectors and electric connections i have to do

thanks in advance

I'm not sure what you mean by "old". Won't this one work?
http://www.ekmpowershop4.com/ekmps/s...aptor-11-p.asp

[gelatmi1]

Bum,

by old i mean

• Spektrum DX5e older-style with SIDE training port ("DX5e adaptor" required)

• Spektrum DX5e new-style with REAR training port (no adaptor required)

...the adaptor shown in your post is right but i'm not able to find it here in Italy so i need to make one by myself !!!!

[flynnaire]

Would it be possible for any one to explain in laymans terms how to get a DX7 to work with this sim???

[TheBum]

Originally Posted by flynnaire

Would it be possible for any one to explain in laymans terms how to get a DX7 to work with this sim???

If you've never set up a heli before, I'd suggest first watching Finless Bob's 101 videos in the first post in this thread: http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=41692. Setting up Phoenix involves a lot of the same activities, especially with regard to radio programming.

Then you'll understand the setup steps in the first post of this particular thread.

[speedyboy9]

hi all,i have an a9 on my sim but the sim only recognizes 8 channels even tho i have all switches assigned to a channel and recalibrated and set up new tx any ideas why?
thanks steve.

[TheBum]

Originally Posted by speedyboy9

hi all,i have an a9 on my sim but the sim only recognizes 8 channels even tho i have all switches assigned to a channel and recalibrated and set up new tx any ideas why?
thanks steve.

Phoenix only supports 8 channels.

[speedyboy9]

that'l be why then thanks

[rickou812]

Quick question/clarification:
Brand New blade 400 3d and brand new phoenix sim, steps needed to fly sim:
1. Copy Model 1 Blade 400 to Model 2
2. Go to Model 2, change "Swash Type" to single servo 90deg.
3. Go through the Tx Calibration process in Sim
4. Pick Blade 400 out in Sim and fly....

What steps am I missing, and what changes need to be made in the Sim and TX to help tame the Blade 400 for a newbie flyer?

Thanks,
Rick

[groundwash]

Thanks heaps for this post TB, I've got the sim scooting around the floor just like my 450 does, even has the same crashes.

A bit more sim time and I might even get the courage to spool up the 550.

Cheers
GW

[on.looker]

Hi,

Does anyone here have any problems with using a Walkera TX (WK-2403, WK-2603, WK-2801 Pro) with PhoenixRC? All three of my Walkera TX does the same thing in PhoenixRC. They cause the heli to drift forward and left (similar to “currera501’s posting #78 on page 8). This drifting is more apparent when you are using a smaller heli. (Before you start; it is not caused by the Rear Rotor Wash; and YES I have selected the correct TX and yes have calibrated it each and every time I use it!) On my simulator the “Beam E4” will drift is so aggressively that, starting from an eye level hover, it will hit the ground with an approximate 60º tilt to port! Further, when I am doing tic-tocs with a "Velocity 50", the smoke trail shows that it will start sliding to the port after the 2nd tic-toc. I can trim out the drifts on my TX but I will need to do it every time I re-enter the simulator. The trimming affect on the TX is accumulative (ie. "3 beeps" off center the first time, another "3 beeps" the second time you re-enter PhoenixRC. Now you are "6 beeps" off both center trims) unless you re-center the trims prior to re-entering PhoenixRC.

LOL, have you every try to flying a real RC heli with at least "18 beeps" off center trims before? I have. Almost needed to change my underwear.

Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong?

[arquitron]

Originally Posted by on.looker

Hi,

Does anyone here have any problems with using a Walkera TX (WK-2403, WK-2603, WK-2801 Pro) with PhoenixRC? All three of my Walkera TX does the same thing in PhoenixRC. They cause the heli to drift forward and left (similar to “currera501’s posting #78 on page 8). This drifting is more apparent when you are using a smaller heli. (Before you start; it is not caused by the Rear Rotor Wash; and YES I have selected the correct TX and yes have calibrated it each and every time I use it!) On my simulator the “Beam E4” will drift is so aggressively that, starting from an eye level hover, it will hit the ground with an approximate 60º tilt to port! Further, when I am doing tic-tocs with a "Velocity 50", the smoke trail shows that it will start sliding to the port after the 2nd tic-toc. I can trim out the drifts on my TX but I will need to do it every time I re-enter the simulator. The trimming affect on the TX is accumulative (ie. "3 beeps" off center the first time, another "3 beeps" the second time you re-enter PhoenixRC. Now you are "6 beeps" off both center trims) unless you re-center the trims prior to re-entering PhoenixRC.

LOL, have you every try to flying a real RC heli with at least "18 beeps" off center trims before? I have. Almost needed to change my underwear.

Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong?

Hello,

Did you try setting the swash type as "1 SERVO" in the model setup menus?