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Old 04-26-2010, 02:50 AM   #1
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Hello fellow compass 6HV owners, I have about 50 flights on my 6HV, although it is flying great it seemed to me it needed a little more power. I am currently using the stock motor and esc with 10T pinion and it was producing pretty good power, Today I was discussing the power of the 6HV with another Team pilot when he brought it to my attention about the esc timing. After going over my settings in my esc the timing was set at the default which was 15 degree's advanced, I was told to set it at 22.5 degree's due to the calculation of the number of poles the motor has. After setting the esc to 22.5 degree's and flying it back to back, wow what a difference! I was stunned at the difference it made. So if you haven't changed your timing to 22.5 I highly encourage you too unless you don't want more power.

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Old 04-26-2010, 05:33 AM   #2
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Thanks Devin, GREAT tip!!
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:44 PM   #3
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Hello fellow compass 6HV owners, I have about 50 flights on my 6HV, although it is flying great it seemed to me it needed a little more power. I am currently using the stock motor and esc with 10T pinion and it was producing pretty good power, Today I was discussing the power of the 6HV with another Team pilot when he brought it to my attention about the esc timing. After going over my settings in my esc the timing was set at the default which was 15 degree's advanced, I was told to set it at 22.5 degree's due to the calculation of the number of poles the motor has. After setting the esc to 22.5 degree's and flying it back to back, wow what a difference! I was stunned at the difference it made. So if you haven't changed your timing to 22.5 I highly encourage you too unless you don't want more power.

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Hey Devin any idea what the best timing would be for the Atom 500 with stock motor and ESC (Hobby Wing 60Amp Platinum) ?
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:26 PM   #4
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Take the number of poles on the motor and divide it by the rotation of the motor 180 degree's.. The 6HV is 8 pole so:

180/8= 22.5

Pretty easy
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Hey Devin any idea what the best timing would be for the Atom 500 with stock motor and ESC (Hobby Wing 60Amp Platinum) ?
Atom stock motor using 8 pole magnet so it should be 22,5 degrees. I use this timing since I got my atom and it produce so much power
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Old 04-29-2010, 10:10 AM   #8
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How do you set the timing specifically to 22.5? I'm stuck with the stock Pentium, not Platinum and it sucks. I've been wanting to get my Atom off the shelf for a while, but it eats batteries and still makes no power. I have 30-40C Zippies and a 25C Outrage pack and I basically put the Atom on the shelf after I got my 450 Pro (sad, I know!).

One other thing of note is the dampeners. Is there any alternative to the Delrins? I had them in my Knight and took them out in favor of the K&B sets. They work a whole lot better IMHO and I'd like to ditch them on the Atom as well. Any suggestions?
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Take the number of poles on the motor and divide it by the rotation of the motor 180 degree's.. The 6HV is 8 pole so:

180/8= 22.5

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Atom stock motor using 8 pole magnet so it should be 22,5 degrees. I use this timing since I got my atom and it produce so much power
Thanks for the info guy's. I changed my timing and setup my gov. I'm running HS of 2990 @ 80% throttle and it's NICE Lots of power through out the flight
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Old 05-07-2010, 12:34 AM   #11
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2990 :o 2290 right? haha Yeah mine is flying GREAT! Love it
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i dont know i haven't seen his mommy , i could be his daddyLOL
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:04 AM   #13
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dum question but where does the 180 figure come from ??

I have a compass 8s im using for a camera ship in its stock set up its drawing 49 amps continuous is this ok or can i change the setting to get more power or drop the load of a bit from the battery & get a longer flight time. I dont need the power im only hovering. what do you reckomend. Thanks guys, im new here so still trying to find how to drive this thing its a bit diffarant to RR.
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2990 :o 2290 right? haha Yeah mine is flying GREAT! Love it

No 2990 rpm on my Atom 500 that's what we tached it at. When we tached it at 100% throttle and no Gov. it was 3188rpm.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:37 AM   #15
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3200 rpm on a 500 is always fun
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:13 AM   #16
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Oh, Thought it was the 6HV
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Oh, Thought it was the 6HV
Hopefully in a couple of months can't wait
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:23 PM   #18
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3200 on a 50 could be fun too.

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Now that would be a sight to see!!!!!
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Hello fellow compass 6HV owners, I have about 50 flights on my 6HV, although it is flying great it seemed to me it needed a little more power. I am currently using the stock motor and esc with 10T pinion and it was producing pretty good power, Today I was discussing the power of the 6HV with another Team pilot when he brought it to my attention about the esc timing. After going over my settings in my esc the timing was set at the default which was 15 degree's advanced, I was told to set it at 22.5 degree's due to the calculation of the number of poles the motor has. After setting the esc to 22.5 degree's and flying it back to back, wow what a difference! I was stunned at the difference it made. So if you haven't changed your timing to 22.5 I highly encourage you too unless you don't want more power.

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