Fun, Learning, Friendship and Mutual Respect
START  HERE


Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopter Support > Thunder Tiger 60/70/90


Thunder Tiger 60/70/90 Raptor 60/70/90 Helicopters


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-02-2010, 05:13 PM   #1
millman
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: uk
Default Raptor 90 se Help and advice

I have come back to this wonderful hobby after a two year break. I was only at the stage of lazy eights when i gave up. I have just got a 90 se and using a dx7. Can anybody advise me on transmitter settings to make it really docile while i get back into it?
millman is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2010, 12:29 PM   #2
seanh
Registered Users
 
Posts: 3,766
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Houston
Default

From what I remember all my servos are at 100% for endpoints then I use about 30% expo for aileron and elevator....rudder will be different per gyro and servo combo.

Wait...don't exactly remember this setup...forgot, it's single servo for collective.

I'll look when I get home today.

Am I to understand you just picked up the 90? If so, you'll love it.

the only major downside is fuel cost....that's it.
__________________
X-cell Fury 90: 601/9251, 8231's Cyc; DS650; OS 91MP-6; Jr Vibe 90; OS 91RJX Pipe; Jr 8231 cyclic, 770 3D/G8900, Prfct Reg. CCPM; T-Rex 600 NP: 6965HB, 425MG Throttle GY 520/9254; OS50 Hyper,MP-5, Prfct Reg; 600E Bstx, nue1910
seanh is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2010, 06:06 PM   #3
millman
Registered Users
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: uk
Default

Thanks seanh,yes thats right,just picked her up,looks gorgeous. Any advice you can give me would be very much appreciated.
millman is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2010, 10:50 PM   #4
seanh
Registered Users
 
Posts: 3,766
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Houston
Default

expo on ail and elv are 15%...my 50's (trex) are around 30%

D/R is 90% in norm and 100% in idle up

travel adjust is 100% + - on ail, elev, rudder is 150% (many suggest this), pitch is 150% (don't know why it's so high...could be due to the G-force head I have (fantastic head...built like a tank) throttle will vary engine to engine...right now mine is 85 high and 36 low (not quite setup here though)

throttle curve in norm is L 12% 1- 43% 2 69% 3-76% H-80.5%
idle 1 is in at 90 and out at 90 with mid at 80% expo on
idle 2 is 98% in and out and 87% mid expo on

I don't run a gov yet so my settings are just what work for me right now.

pitch curve is linear on in all my rates 0 to 100% expo on. Haven't set pitch curves for anything else as I was just getting into my setup before I crashed.

I'm in the process of getting the bird back in the air after the last crash. Killed the engine because of an exploding clutch and bell...engine sucked in frag and broke the crank toasted the liner, ring and piston. Other than the engine boom, TT, a few links, blades and a servo Oh, and the shafts in the head. that really wasn't a good day but considering it was a hard inverted landing due to a failed aileron servo...not all bad.

I can say this thing actually rolls quite nice.
__________________
X-cell Fury 90: 601/9251, 8231's Cyc; DS650; OS 91MP-6; Jr Vibe 90; OS 91RJX Pipe; Jr 8231 cyclic, 770 3D/G8900, Prfct Reg. CCPM; T-Rex 600 NP: 6965HB, 425MG Throttle GY 520/9254; OS50 Hyper,MP-5, Prfct Reg; 600E Bstx, nue1910
seanh is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2010, 10:58 PM   #5
AzChopp3r
Registered Users
 
Posts: 452
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Show Low, Arizona
Default

We flew mine last wed and the pitch was so touchy Im wondering if your pitch travel at 150 is because of that. 150 on travel will make the pitch curve more docile.

My elev and aile are now at 80% with 30% expo. For me it was way too touchy so Im trying this tomorrow.

Also working on the settings on my OS91 Max SV as I got this bird from a guy in San Diego and he shipped to me where Im at 6500ft elev. Needless to say it ran very rich when I first started it.
__________________
SR120, MCX2, Trex500 CF, Blade 400 ,Trex450XL, Outrage 550. Raptor 30 V2 OS37
Raptor 90SE, OS91 Max SZH (sick heli)
AMA# 950209 White Mountain Bald Eagle Squadron
Jesus is Lord Happy Flying
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
AzChopp3r is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2010, 08:34 AM   #6
seanh
Registered Users
 
Posts: 3,766
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Houston
Default

One of the things to consider is how far out the balls are on the arms for collective. Mine isn't too far out. I think it's 14-16mm. Also, was thinking what servos you are using as well as paddles.

I figured that 150% was too much, don't know what's up with that.

It'll be a week before I get my bird in the air...less I can get a bunch of work done today...just too much little stuff. And I've not too hot about the Align servos I have so it may be longer til I get another servo.
__________________
X-cell Fury 90: 601/9251, 8231's Cyc; DS650; OS 91MP-6; Jr Vibe 90; OS 91RJX Pipe; Jr 8231 cyclic, 770 3D/G8900, Prfct Reg. CCPM; T-Rex 600 NP: 6965HB, 425MG Throttle GY 520/9254; OS50 Hyper,MP-5, Prfct Reg; 600E Bstx, nue1910
seanh is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2010, 02:13 PM   #7
millman
Registered Users
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: uk
Default

Thanks for all your help. I set her up today and spooled her up. Sounds really sweet.
Couldnt fly as the UK weather was blowing hard.
I will let you know how it goes.She is a big heli so the old knees will be knocking for a while till i get back into it.
Heres her spec

Os91 Sx-H Ring C Spec
Full Metal Head Tt And Quik uk
Heavy Duty Clutch )
Heavy Duty Clutch Bell
Hardened Main Shaft
Sus Hardended Flybar Rod
Metal Elevator Lever Set
Metal Upgrade Block
Metal Lower Bearing Block
Metal Cooling Fan
Metal Tail Pitch Slider
Metal Clutch Brg Base
Carbon Tail Drive Shaft
Carbon Fibre Base Plate Frame Brace
Solid Alloy This Tailboom Brace And Fin Mounting Clamp Quik uk
Alloy Tail Grip Quik
Carbon Fibre Tail & Fin Quik
Carbon Main Blades Tt Carbon Tail Blades
Quik Header Tank
Muscle Pipe 6 90
Carbon Tail Servo Plate
Orginal Plastic Canopy
Futaba Gy611 Gyro + S9254
Align B6t 2in1 Voltage Regulator + 3600 Ma Li-Po
3x Ds620 Align Digital Servos
1x Spektrum Ds821 Servo
Spektrum Ar6200 Receiver

Also add a pic
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	big bird 2.jpg
Views:	76
Size:	43.7 KB
ID:	177940  
millman is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2010, 06:51 PM   #8
seanh
Registered Users
 
Posts: 3,766
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Houston
Default

that's a sweet setup you got there. The only warning I'd give is with the Align servos. They're good as to the specs but like all Align electronics they suffer from reliability. I'm sure they'll last you a season, maybe more but you just never know.

I had the 610's on mine...great response and plenty strong but they're what caused my crash. The aileron servo pegged to one side causing an uncontrollable roll.

I know many people have had great luck with them, just I have no faith in the Align electronics anymore. their 600 size esc's go out, the regulators go out, mostly the switch but the reg itself has been known to just stop working, servos have a tendency to stop working or pegging, motors in the 600 size class have problems.

not trying to scare you, just inform you.

the servos in my raptor are now going to be hitec 7940th's with a fromeco reg, switching to perfect reg ccpm soon.
__________________
X-cell Fury 90: 601/9251, 8231's Cyc; DS650; OS 91MP-6; Jr Vibe 90; OS 91RJX Pipe; Jr 8231 cyclic, 770 3D/G8900, Prfct Reg. CCPM; T-Rex 600 NP: 6965HB, 425MG Throttle GY 520/9254; OS50 Hyper,MP-5, Prfct Reg; 600E Bstx, nue1910
seanh is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2010, 06:20 PM   #9
Breezyjr
Registered Users
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Commerce Twp, MI
Default

If you have the manual for your raptor, take a look at end of the manual... There are a bunch of suggested settings for beginners to extreme 3D.

The one I remember off the top of my head was putting the ball at 14mm out on the collective servo. 10.5mm for Aileron, which also happens to be the original location anyway...

I switched to a push/pull elevator setup, and I don't remember what the setting was.

If you don't have a manual, send me a PM, I'll give you all the settings they recommend for a beginner.

Joe_Breezy
__________________
Diablo, Shape 9.0, Goblin 700, Sylphide 90, Srimok 90N, Srimok 90E, Dune, Vibe 90SG, TDR, E-Aurora, Logo 600SE, T600 ESP, T600NSP, Synergy E6, Logo 500SE, Warp 360, Gaui NX4 & X4,T500, T450 Pro FBL, 130x
Breezyjr is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2010, 12:18 AM   #10
darryl123
Registered Users
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: new england
Default

dont forget to read up on the tail drive pin failure and what to do to fix it with the shrink wrap on the drive gears. it will save a headache later on.
__________________
raptor 90 fbl
raptor 50
raptor x50 fbl
raptor e620 fbl
darryl123 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2010, 01:45 PM   #11
millman
Registered Users
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: uk
Default

Thank you all very much for the help and advice. A good friend of mine,who is a very good heli pilot,went right through the heli at the weekend. He set the heli up really well for me. After he had trimmed her up,he put 30% expo into the transmitter and handed her over to me. The old legs were shaking a bit but i brought her straight up into the hover,(i forgot how good that feels) and kept her there for a full tank. After landing,i had a break and during the afternoon,flew three more tanks,just hovering about but it really got me back into it.
I will keep you informed as to how it goes from here.
millman is offline        Reply With Quote
Reply




Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopter Support > Thunder Tiger 60/70/90


Thunder Tiger 60/70/90 Raptor 60/70/90 Helicopters

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Copyright © 2004-2011 - William James - Helifreak.com