Fun, Learning, Friendship and Mutual Respect
START  HERE


Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > For Sale Forums KNOW your buyer/seller ratings! No Price bashing. NO FIREARMS > Scale Helicopters, For Sale


Scale Helicopters, For Sale *No Commercial Ads - Scale Helicopters Only


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-27-2010, 07:13 AM   #1
GunnyGlow
Registered Users
 
Posts: 2,960
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Aurora, CO
Default Do not buy something through paypal as a gift...

WARNING
Just FYI....b/c I see alot of people here asking to be paid via the Paypal "gift" option.

Why would you pay for something and mark it as "Gift"?? Well, most times the seller will ask you to do this. It saves him/her from having to pay the paypal fee.

Why should you NOT pay as a "gift"?? B/C as a buyer you have NO protection from a scam. So..they could send you a box of rocks or nothing at all and paypal won't give a rip. You marked it as a gift...remember??
/WARNING


RANT
It's kind of annoying when cheapskates ask you to pay their fee, too. Which is why the gift thing is popular. Pay the frickin couple of dollars for paypals fee if you're selling something. And don't ask for that crap(the fee) in your for sale ad. If you want $100 for your toy and $3 to cover the fee....then ask for $103!!! Why in the HELL would I pay YOUR fee??
/RANT
GunnyGlow is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 07:32 AM   #2
Skint Eastwood
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: UK
Default

Most people just add the expected fee to the postage costs!
Skint Eastwood is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 12:14 PM   #3
MTDV
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Missouri City, TX
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnyGlow View Post
Why should you NOT pay as a "gift"?? B/C as a buyer you have NO protection from a scam. So..they could send you a box of rocks or nothing at all and paypal won't give a rip. You marked it as a gift...remember??
Unless your seller does not send anything to you, but if he sent you something that is "not as described" item, Paypal will not protect you either unless your purchased item coming from Ebay. I've been there, and here it is http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1103950
MTDV is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 12:19 PM   #4
imq707s
Registered Users
 
Posts: 562
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: SW Missouri
Default

Also...for those of you who add an extra fee to your item to cover the PayPal fee....if someone reports to paypal that you tried to charge them extra to cover YOUR fee...PayPal will drop you in a heartbeat.
__________________
Honey Bee FP
CopterX 450 SE V2, Turnigy Plush 40a ESC, Sonix 3500kv motor, S306G's, S9257 w/Assan GA250 gyro
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
imq707s is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2010, 04:29 PM   #5
ginnz
Registered Users
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Manitoba,Canada
Default

yeh, this whole paypal thing is outta hand. i dont mind paying them a couple bucks fee for anything. it really doesnt make,nor break the bank!
__________________
MSR/Trex250/3-Hoss X4E/Flasher 450/BlackHawk500SePro/Trex500CF/HossX5R/Hurri550 Scale Jet Ranger/Trex600E/Dx7!
ginnz is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2010, 12:37 AM   #6
mundo330
Registered Users
 
Posts: 106
 

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Georgia
Default This is a service!

Paypal is a service, you offer a product or service and you get paid. You want to get your money safely and quickly and paypal offers that. You can take Credit cards through Paypal, a convenience. This is a service and paypal deserves to get paid for it. I hate those that take advantage of this and try to get away without paying. I agree that if you need more to cover YOUR expenses raise your bottom line! Paypal is a cost of doing business!
Doug S
mundo330 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2010, 01:19 AM   #7
Bob O
HF Support
 
Posts: 27,374
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Negaunee, Michigan
Default

I've always followed the PP rules and never had a problem. Whenever I sell something, I always send a PP invoice to the buyer, but that's just me.
__________________
):> Team HeliFreak
SPARTANRC - R&D Team
GAUI X4II - VX1e -
OmG servos
Futaba 14SG
Bob O is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2010, 02:31 AM   #8
dc0321
Registered Users
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: brooklyn NY
Default

i agree with u guys . its only 3% fee,just pay for it
dc0321 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 10:04 PM   #9
shaggybirdman
Registered Users
 
Posts: 2,233
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Cheektowaga NY
Default

it's just like if you have a business, and you accept credit cards. you loose a percentage of the sale to master card, visa, or whatever card it is. just take note though. if they say you have to spend $x.xx to use your cc they could loos there machine if they get turned in. they have to let you use it for any amount if they want to keep the privilege of using there machine.
__________________
cx2, mcx, T Rex 450 SA, GAUI 550, walkera cb100, 4#6, 4#6S, 4g6S, trex 450 clone, V911/FP100, DX7, DX8
never hold your farts in. they travel up your spine, and that's where s****y ideas come from.
shaggybirdman is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 10:07 PM   #10
shaggybirdman
Registered Users
 
Posts: 2,233
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Cheektowaga NY
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnyGlow View Post

RANT
It's kind of annoying when cheapskates ask you to pay their fee, too. Which is why the gift thing is popular. Pay the frickin couple of dollars for paypals fee if you're selling something. And don't ask for that crap(the fee) in your for sale ad. If you want $100 for your toy and $3 to cover the fee....then ask for $103!!! Why in the HELL would I pay YOUR fee??
/RANT
in your above rant. if you pay $103 you did just pay there fee.
__________________
cx2, mcx, T Rex 450 SA, GAUI 550, walkera cb100, 4#6, 4#6S, 4g6S, trex 450 clone, V911/FP100, DX7, DX8
never hold your farts in. they travel up your spine, and that's where s****y ideas come from.
shaggybirdman is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 10:38 PM   #11
GunnyGlow
Registered Users
 
Posts: 2,960
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Aurora, CO
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shaggybirdman View Post
in your above rant. if you pay $103 you did just pay there fee.
Their??


You should maybe read it again........I think you misunderstood why I, as a buyer, would be paying the $103. If you ask for $103 and I agree to it...well, there isn't a problem. You get $100...paypal gets their cut....and I get my merchandise. Yay happy good times.....

The fees are charged to the seller. Not the buyer.
As a buyer, why would I want to pay the sellers fees??
GunnyGlow is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2010, 09:42 PM   #12
shaggybirdman
Registered Users
 
Posts: 2,233
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Cheektowaga NY
Default

i understand, and agree that the buyer should not pay his fee, BUT you said you have no problem paying $103 over the $100 plus his fee of $3. granted it's different when he says $100 plus $3 fees vs just $103 shipped. no matter how ya look at it the buyer is always paying the fees no matter what the end price is, and no matter how the seller prices his item. that is unless the seller says plus pay pal fees.

my objection to paying as a gift is you just gave up all protection on your cash threw pay pal. i'd bet it's way more work trying to get your money back threw your credit card company.
__________________
cx2, mcx, T Rex 450 SA, GAUI 550, walkera cb100, 4#6, 4#6S, 4g6S, trex 450 clone, V911/FP100, DX7, DX8
never hold your farts in. they travel up your spine, and that's where s****y ideas come from.
shaggybirdman is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2010, 07:44 PM   #13
ChasHeliCop
HF Support
 
Posts: 4,885
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Default

FROM PAYPAL VIOLATION
4. Receiving Money.

4.1 Receiving Personal Payments.

If you are selling goods or services, you may not ask the buyer to send you a Personal Payment for the purchase. If you do so, PayPal may remove your ability to accept Personal Payments.


4.5 No Surcharges. You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as a payment method. You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge and is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions.
__________________
Sponsored by Visa/MasterCard / Team Budweiser / Trojan Field Rep
Donut Connoisseur
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


HELI-FREAK, You couldn't have picked a better place to land !
ChasHeliCop is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 05:36 PM   #14
shaggybirdman
Registered Users
 
Posts: 2,233
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Cheektowaga NY
Default

that's all well and good for evil bay item, but we are talking about buying something here. i don't think we should pay for there fees.
__________________
cx2, mcx, T Rex 450 SA, GAUI 550, walkera cb100, 4#6, 4#6S, 4g6S, trex 450 clone, V911/FP100, DX7, DX8
never hold your farts in. they travel up your spine, and that's where s****y ideas come from.
shaggybirdman is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 11:17 AM   #15
GunnyGlow
Registered Users
 
Posts: 2,960
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Aurora, CO
Default

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1205275

A good example of why you should NOT use the 'gift' option.

If you ask someone to use the "gift" option to avoid fees.....you ARE a scammer. Be it someone else or Paypal....you're scamming someone.
GunnyGlow is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2010, 11:12 PM   #16
amcutem
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: B.C. Canada
Default

I just learned this the hardway. But mine was live on the forum...
amcutem is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2010, 04:21 PM   #17
phoenixheli
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,153
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Apollo, PA
Default Simple things turned into complexities

Simple:

You have some parts you dont need anyhow, so just sell it for $75 shipped.
You get paid $75.
You take a loss on shipping and on the paypal fee.
You have less junk around and your work bench is clean(er).
You can buy that motor you always wanted.
The wife stops bothering you.
You benefit your fellow pilot.


Alternative:

You have some parts that you just hoard like a pack rat.
You get paid nothing.
You didnt pay any fees or shipping.
You have junk everywhere and your work bench is messy.
You still wish you had that motor you always wanted.
The wife is under your skin.
You don't help your fellow pilot out.


The lesson:

Better to have lost a tiny part of the whole than to have nothing at all.
__________________
CPv3, Axe 400, Exi 450, Franken Heli 450, mCPx, Swift 16, Blade 450x Thumbs Only!
phoenixheli is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2010, 04:54 PM   #18
shaggybirdman
Registered Users
 
Posts: 2,233
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Cheektowaga NY
Default

or you set a price on the item, and make payment. then the seller whines that ya make payment too fast and he has to pay the fee of $3, and would have preferred me to pay as a gift.
__________________
cx2, mcx, T Rex 450 SA, GAUI 550, walkera cb100, 4#6, 4#6S, 4g6S, trex 450 clone, V911/FP100, DX7, DX8
never hold your farts in. they travel up your spine, and that's where s****y ideas come from.
shaggybirdman is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2010, 06:02 PM   #19
GunnyGlow
Registered Users
 
Posts: 2,960
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Aurora, CO
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by phoenixheli View Post

Alternative:

You have some parts that you just hoard like a pack rat.
You get paid nothing.
You didnt pay any fees or shipping.
You have junk everywhere and your work bench is messy.
You still wish you had that motor you always wanted.
The wife is under your skin.
You don't help your fellow pilot out.


The lesson:

Better to have lost a tiny part of the whole than to have nothing at all.
Shamefully.....I must admit I"m an "alternative".
I know as soon as I throw it away or sell it....I"ll need it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shaggybirdman View Post
or you set a price on the item, and make payment. then the seller whines that ya make payment too fast and he has to pay the fee of $3, and would have preferred me to pay as a gift.
A seller that complains payment was too fast!?!? Who, where, what, WHY??

That seller would be a good one to NOT buy from.
GunnyGlow is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2010, 01:50 PM   #20
geral
Registered Users
 
Posts: 263
 

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: usa
Default i have a question,

if i give a price,and don't specify paypal fees,but it is a new item and i pay shipping,as well as losing money on item.is it wrong for me to expect buyer to pay them,i always pay paypal fees when i buy something,it is a couple dollars,
that's the least i can do for getting a good deal,or not paying shippingif the item is under cost,
thank's
geral is offline        Reply With Quote
Reply




Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > For Sale Forums KNOW your buyer/seller ratings! No Price bashing. NO FIREARMS > Scale Helicopters, For Sale


Scale Helicopters, For Sale *No Commercial Ads - Scale Helicopters Only

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Copyright © 2004-2011 - William James - Helifreak.com