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Old 12-04-2010, 11:06 PM   #1
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Default Share your Mini Protos Flybarless Setups !

Share your Mini Protos Flybarless setups here.

Please List:

(System) ie: Mini Vbar, Beast X, Align 3G etc...
(Servos) Both Cyclic and Tail
Motor and ESC Setup along with headspeed.
Any other notes in which you feel are important!

Of course if you have a system in which you can or would like to share your file in which you have created that you feel works well please do so!
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:33 AM   #2
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My Mini Protos Flybarless setup is as follows
Skookum 720
Futaba R6108SB S-Bus RX
Hercules Super Mini BEC
Hyperion VX G3 3s 2600 mAh
Hitec HS-5065 Digital Metal Gear Servos (cyclic)
OUTRAGE OS7654T servo (tail)
Motor, ESC and blades (kit suppled stock)

I can't wait till its all put together and ready fly !
i'll admit that i'm the kind of guy that is very anal about the assembly of heli kits so this might take a little bit to get done.

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Old 12-06-2010, 08:58 AM   #3
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Ready to fly but winter is here!

CYE Total-G w/ Spektrum satellites
Hitec HS-5065MG on cyclic
Futaba S9257 on rudder
Scorpion 2221-12 w/ 16t pinion
CC ICE Lite 50 ESC, governor mode currently set for 2800rpm
Hyperion VX 3S 2600 battery
Edge FBL blades

Test hover only in my basement waiting for weather to cooperate, which could be a long wait now.
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:33 AM   #4
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Should've added, AUW w/ Hyperion VX 3S 2600 pack is 1.985 lbs / 900 grams.
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:21 PM   #5
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BeastX with AR6100E ( to be replace with Satellites soon )
Align DS410 MG on cyclic (13.5mm from center)
Futaba BLS257 on rudder
Stock ESC and Motor
Turnigy nano-tech 2200mah 3S 35~70C Lipo Pack
Edge FBL blades with stock tail blade
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:44 PM   #6
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Default mini protos setup

my mini set up

Mini Protos
Micro Beastx
HobbyWing 40 plat pro esc
Stock MSH motor
MKS DS95 X3
JR 3500 G tail servo
Voltz batteries
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Old 12-18-2010, 12:48 AM   #7
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where do you get the mks ds95 servos from?
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:10 AM   #8
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right here

http://www.mars480.com/mksds95iservo.html
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:15 PM   #9
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Ok got my pretty dialed in, only 4 flights and this file is good to go!

Mikado Mini Vbar 5.0 Pro

Reference:

First off NO expo in TX, I am using the software expo!

Cyclics: JR 285MG, servo ball spacing is 13.6mm **Note 15mm is too much!** this will be case on Beast X or any other system in order to have proper full resolution! 7mm on tr ball also worked best, 5mm or less was less locked in!

TR: MKS DS8910 tr servo

Stock motor, 16T pinion and stock esc all used

This is advanced 3D file, all trims were zeroed out so you'll need of course to check your servo 90s, and make them your own, so this can be as reference or for you to load, but YOU MUST check your defelections etc PRIOR to first spoolup!!!
Suggest looking it as reference point if you allready have working 5.0 file.

I am running Futaba S-Bus so make sure if you are running Spektrum to make selections as well to check your center calibrations.

If you are using different cyclics and or tr servo, simply back down the tr servo common gain say 5-8 points to start as well cyclic agility say down 5-8 points then work your way up but this works solid on the Mini Protos in hard 3D flight for 100% sure!


Here you go, enjoy!!
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:26 AM   #10
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thanks for the file. i will try the cyclic at 13.5 mm. 15mm is just plane crazay!! I cant wait to see a vid of you flyin the mini.
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:25 PM   #11
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15mm puts it out of the range for good resolution, and the heli flies WAY better with 13.5 on FBL, I assure you of this!!
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Old 12-26-2010, 01:56 PM   #12
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Awesome. Can someone share how to hookup sb rx to mini vbar blueline pro.
I'm moving a R6106HFC to mini Protos, but I'd like to try the sb R6108SB rx.
So i plug servos to mini, then what wires between mini and sb rx ?

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Old 12-26-2010, 08:00 PM   #13
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Plug the one cable between the Sbus connector on the RX and the RC on the Mini-Vbar. Your ESC cable should plug into the throttle channel (CH3) on the RX.
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Old 12-27-2010, 06:38 AM   #14
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15mm puts it out of the range for good resolution, and the heli flies WAY better with 13.5 on FBL, I assure you of this!!
Your milage may vary on this.

Mine flies perfectly with 15 mm servo arms with MKS DS95 servos, and I am wondering what your V-bar collective throw and cyclic percentages are at with 13.5 mm arms? With 15 mm, mine are on the high side at 113% on both collective and cyclic, giving me 12.5' collective and 8' cyclic on the setup tabs.

With 13.5 mm, I would be well outside the recommended settings for a proper control loop on the V-bar.

Sure is peppy, but nothing that can't be adjusted to play nice via the agility slider.
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Old 12-27-2010, 07:58 AM   #15
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Edvard,how are you finding the MKS servos as I am in the market for new ones.
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Plug the one cable between the Sbus connector on the RX and the RC on the Mini-Vbar. Your ESC cable should plug into the throttle channel (CH3) on the RX.
Got it now. Thks
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Edvard,how are you finding the MKS servos as I am in the market for new ones.
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They are pretty cool - quick, strong and reasonably priced. So far, quality seems quite nice. Nothing to complain about after 20 or so flights.
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:06 PM   #18
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Mine flies perfectly with 15 mm servo arms with MKS DS95 servos, and I am wondering what your V-bar collective throw and cyclic percentages are at with 13.5 mm arms? With 15 mm, mine are on the high side at 113% on both collective and cyclic, giving me 12.5' collective and 8' cyclic on the setup tabs.

With 13.5 mm, I would be well outside the recommended settings for a proper control loop on the V-bar.

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On my heli I have D202's...with short arms that dont have a 15mm option. I needed to put the short flybar version outer swash balls to get the vbar ranges closer to optimal. Seems 15mm would be a good arm measurement to use
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:42 PM   #19
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Your milage may vary on this.

Mine flies perfectly with 15 mm servo arms with MKS DS95 servos, and I am wondering what your V-bar collective throw and cyclic percentages are at with 13.5 mm arms? With 15 mm, mine are on the high side at 113% on both collective and cyclic, giving me 12.5' collective and 8' cyclic on the setup tabs.

With 13.5 mm, I would be well outside the recommended settings for a proper control loop on the V-bar.

Sure is peppy, but nothing that can't be adjusted to play nice via the agility slider.

Refer to post #9 my file is there.

Different servos have very different gear slack, distance throw etc, so yes of course this can vary. Now with the JR285mg this is what I found for certain, 13.5, anything over the numbers get way to small and it just does not feel near as good overall either.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:56 AM   #20
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Mine come in few days, kit is on the way...

R6008HS - T8 FG
µBeastX to try or going back to Mini Vbar V5 pro
cyclic MKS DS450
tail MKS DS8910
Stock msh "scorpion" motor & YGE 60 ESC
Turnigy 2200 3s 30C battery
SAB stock blades/Edges 325/RJX 325 - stock tail blades

Anyone have try the new MKS DS95i for tail ?
Specs seems ok : 0.038s/60 deg (6.0V) - 2.40 kg-cm (6.0V)

Do you know the correct distance of the cyclic servos balls for the µbeast resolution ?

I think the big Rave will remain at home for the rest of winter....sooo cute heli
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