YGE 90 HV

[jacquesjb]

Originally Posted by joe1l

Key point to remember when setting up a YGE ESC.

1.) the YGE is a gov only type esc like Kontronic in that it REQUIRES a flat throttle curve! If you try to do a linear it will not work well... If you try to use a linear curve on 12S you will strip your main gear immediately... Hence set your throttle curve to something like this.

Are you sure?
With the programming card, we can set the governor off.
There are 3 mode (gov on, gov off, gov store)
Yesterday, I have receive my second YGE 100A and I wanted to try it in my other Outrage without the governor.
Should I give a try or not ?

[RotaryBliss]

I ran my heli for the first few flights with the gov off with an 95-85-95 v curve before I turned it on, although I had calced out my 85% to be my target headspeed at 2300 and all was just fine. I just didnt pound on the collective breaking the heli in..

[joe1l]

Originally Posted by jacquesjb

Are you sure?
With the programming card, we can set the governor off.
There are 3 mode (gov on, gov off, gov store)
Yesterday, I have receive my second YGE 100A and I wanted to try it in my other Outrage without the governor.
Should I give a try or not ?

You can run with the gov off but you might have issues holding the tail etc if you start to fly around...There is no advantage to running with the gov off unless you plan on using vbar gov or some other external gov...even then i believe you may need to put it Airplane mode... either way if your were to try to run a throttle curve that was 0 -50-100 you would destroy your main gear. If you guys are looking to do test flights i suggest using the std gov on.

I forgot to mention before but if you are running 12S you will probably need the freewheel off.

[scoti333]

Found this, dunno if its what everybody has heard already or not..

[joe1l]

Originally Posted by scoti333

Found this, dunno if its what everybody has heard already or not..

That is the RC setup (No Prog Card). If you have a prog card use it, its much easier. If anyone has any questions on YGE feel free to PM me i should be able to get you sorted.

[scoti333]

Crap sorry. Should have read it through..

[scoti333]

Is anyone having trouble storing the settings on the ProgCard? Every time I try to program it's reset when I reboot the card and press enter.. I have power going to the receiver AND to the esc.

[Nefarious]

The card is connected to the short programming lead right?

Also, you must power up the ESC first. So plug in flight pack first and the power the prog card.

[scoti333]

Originally Posted by Nefarious

The card is connected to the short programming lead right?

Also, you must power up the ESC first. So plug in flight pack first and the power the prog card.

Yes the short lead goes to the card. I have not tried powering the esc first, so maybe that's what's wrong..

[dpelletier]

Originally Posted by joe1l

Key point to remember when setting up a YGE ESC.

you must plug your prog-cable (short cable on ESC) to the prog card and then plug your RX with a 5v power source into the RX..

@ Joe... ?? "plug your RX with a 5V power source into your RX ??

[Nefarious]

Originally Posted by dpelletier

@ Joe... ?? "plug your RX with a 5V power source into your RX ??

He meant plug your RX with a 5V power source into your progcard.

[dpelletier]

OK so...

ESC is 90 HV with two servo wires... one short (to go to prog card) one long (to go to receiver.
Prog Card has two servo-type connectors (right and left)

1. Disconnect all power
2. Connect ESC short servo wire to "right" prog card connector
3. Disconnect ESC from the Rx
4. Connect Servo wire from Rx (throttle channel) to "left" Prog Card connector
5. Power up ESC (motor disengaged from the main gear)
6. Power up Rx (with 5V power source), which will power up the prog card...

7. Program...(dis, dat and the udder ting...)

8. Remove power from the Rx, which will kill power to the prog card
9. Remove power from the ESC
10. Disconnect prog card from Rx
11. Connect ESC long wire to Rx
12. Disconnect ESC short wire from prog card (tuck it out of harms way).

13. Go fly!

Does that cover it with regards to wiring for programming?

[Nefarious]

Originally Posted by dpelletier

OK so...

ESC is 90 HV with two servo wires... one short (to go to prog card) one long (to go to receiver.
Prog Card has two servo-type connectors (right and left)

1. Disconnect all power
2. Connect ESC short servo wire to "right" prog card connector
3. Disconnect ESC from the Rx
4. Connect Servo wire from Rx (throttle channel) to "left" Prog Card connector
5. Power up ESC (motor disengaged from the main gear)
6. Power up Rx (with 5V power source), which will power up the prog card...

7. Program...(dis, dat and the udder ting...)

8. Remove power from the Rx, which will kill power to the prog card
9. Remove power from the ESC
10. Disconnect prog card from Rx
11. Connect ESC long wire to Rx
12. Disconnect ESC short wire from prog card (tuck it out of harms way).

13. Go fly!

Does that cover it with regards to wiring for programming?

Pretty much... I would just add that you verify all values are what you set them too by cycling power on ESC & progcard before you set the "gov store". Once you have verified everything is as you set it then set the gov store and follow steps 8-12.

Once the gov is set, change your throttle curve to whatever you like and then step 13.

[scoti333]

Thanks. I understand how to do all of that and I've followed Pete from Elektro's YouTube vid to a 'T', but I read further in the included instructions and it said that the HV ESC's won't read back if they are different from v4??

[Nefarious]

Originally Posted by scoti333

Thanks. I understand how to do all of that and I've followed Pete from Elektro's YouTube vid to a 'T', but I read further in the included instructions and it said that the HV ESC's won't read back if they are different from v4??

Can't comment on that as my manual was written for the non-HV ESC's that don't have the programming lead. I promptly tossed it in the garbage and worked my way through it with the help of Pete's site & Joe on here.

[scoti333]

Originally Posted by Nefarious

Can't comment on that as my manual was written for the non-HV ESC's that don't have the programming lead. I promptly tossed it in the garbage and worked my way through it with the help of Pete's site & Joe on here.

Yea I'm slowly figuring that out

[dpelletier]

Here is a great post by vikas and joe1l from last December:

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=246947&page=3

scroll down to post #48.

[scoti333]

Originally Posted by dpelletier

Here is a great post by vikas and joe1l from last December:

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=246947&page=3

scroll down to post #48.

Thanks, I know I'm missing some small step...

[scoti333]

Well, figured it out. In my included instructions it says the functioning voltage of the ProgCard is 4-6v. I was using 5.8, then I tried a 4.8v NiMH(after numerous emails back and forth from Pete @ ElektroRC of course. Thanx Pete!) and it works perfectly. I'm using it on a 600 Pro but don't know if I can get it to 2500RPM with the gov tho. I was one of those people against the lower tail ratio and such a high headspeed until I tried it! My favorite bird to fly now... Was using the Castle Creamation but given the circumstances I felt I needed a YGE since I run a Kontronik on my Shape 9.0 but didn't want to splurge for one again. I've done a couple of test flights without the gov though with 'v' curves and it's great except the esc wouldn't arm until I changed the endpoints, even after doing a throttle calibration using the card. Thanks everyone who helped!

[joe1l]

If you did your throttle calibration with your throttle hold on for the lower point it may cause an issue for certain controllers. For instance on a futaba 8fg throttle hold and 0 are two different values.. throttle hold is usually -125..while zero is -100 or something like that. Hence I suggest doing throttle calibration with throttle hold off and stick set to zero.