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Old 05-24-2012, 01:07 PM   #41
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I have seen the CoPilot systems and though some people love them it made me nervous just looking at it. With all the added wires, sensors and RX it offers even more chance of some type of failure. That box has total control of the heli...thanks but no thanks, I am the one that wants full control. If one of the sensors gets shadowed or covered some how its going to turn into a bad day. I like my birds to have a minimal amount of wires and failure points as possible but to each his own.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:08 PM   #42
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not halving to waist money because you screwed up would be great.. i have not screwed up in a long time but some day i will and ill be pissed that i halve to fork out a few hundred bucks.

last time i crashed was due to a motor pinion slipping. i doubt the unit could have saved that from crashing..
Barring mechanical or electrical failure on board... some things you'll still need to deal with.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:10 PM   #43
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I have seen the CoPilot systems and though some people love them it made me nervous just looking at it. With all the added wires, sensors and RX it offers even more chance of some type of failure. That box has total control of the heli...thanks but no thanks, I am the one that wants full control. If one of the sensors gets shadowed or covered some how its going to turn into a bad day. I like my birds to have a minimal amount of wires and failure points as possible but to each his own.
I do not know where your getting your false information from.. but the system is completely tunable.. it can have major control if setup as such or be as a bail function alone.. and anything in between
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:11 PM   #44
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Looks like a great money grab aimed at newbs.
Sorry D, but with what I have invested in my fleet better believe I'll use these
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:15 PM   #45
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I trust my own skill more than some "flight stabilization" I have seen more $$$$ thrown into the ground because of so called stabilization and self-leveling then they would have ever saved.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:15 PM   #46
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I do not know where your getting your false information from.. but the system is completely tunable.. it can have major control if setup as such or be as a bail function alone.. and anything in between
Whats false? By full control I mean that inputs are controlled directly through the copilot first. I know it has a tunable factor but your servos plug into the co pilot system are directly controlled by it which imo is just another point of failure.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:24 PM   #47
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Same can be said for your FBL controller.. no real difference
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:26 PM   #48
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I trust my own skill more than some "flight stabilization" I have seen more $$$$ thrown into the ground because of so called stabilization and self-leveling then they would have ever saved.
That is your choice and privilege to do..
Never said it was for all but it does now put the heli gods on notice
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:26 PM   #49
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People aren't buying FBL units to prevent crashes, your argument isn't valid.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:27 PM   #50
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True enough but are they not also inputting signal to the servos??
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:31 PM   #51
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I guess I am alittle bitter, when I joined the hobby there was that $700 co-pilot thing, what a ripoff that thing was, I never bought one but I saw a ton of folks try using them only to fail. While this new product might be an interest to some pilots it's hardly going to change or revolutionize anything.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:32 PM   #52
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Not that i'm such a big fan of the system. To each his own. If you like it buy it, if you don't like it don't buy it. Simple.
But I must agree with the fbl controller argument. If you use any fbl controller, the servo's are allways plugged into, and fully controlled by, the fbl controller. If it decides to trow any servo, any other way than you're pointing it you're going down. So, imo, you are completely depending on a correctly functioning fbl controller. Exactly the same with this system. No?
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:33 PM   #53
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will it avoid YOU? If I took a heli with that anti crash device, could you walk around in the middle of the filed, I fly the heli directly at you full speed and it avoid you?

What about avoiding a hurricane fence, barbed wire?

If it can, great. If not, I'd say it needs more work.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:33 PM   #54
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:35 PM   #55
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It will change how you fear flying a helicopter
If you have complete control of the heli, and its kept up with,
no need to fear a heli.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:38 PM   #56
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Pretty much all of my crashes in the last few years wouldn't have mattered if there was a stabilization unit.

The FBL vs Stab argument doesn't make sense. You are buying the Stab to prevent crashes, you buy the FBL unit for different reasons, so why are you comparing how they fail ?
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:39 PM   #57
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I'll pass
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:46 PM   #58
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Part of the fun for me is controlling the heli. This would harm my "fun factor".
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:03 PM   #59
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This is new technology, lost orientation, dumb thumbs.. situations that usually lead to crashes are now limited to mechanical electrical failure..

If you feel it isn't your cup of tea .. all well and good ,
but for someone starting out in 3D or even simple pattern flight, if it keeps your bird say 50 feet up without the worry of eating dirt or an expensive rekit, I'm all for it....

Look at how much more practice time you'll get alone.
The 3 mistake rule now becomes passe'
But as I said to each there own
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:05 PM   #60
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Pretty much all of my crashes in the last few years wouldn't have mattered if there was a stabilization unit.

The FBL vs Stab argument doesn't make sense. You are buying the Stab to prevent crashes, you buy the FBL unit for different reasons, so why are you comparing how they fail ?
Because they can both fail in exactly the same way. In theory. You said that you wouldn't buy this unit because it has total control over the servo's. If anything goes wrong with it, you have no control over the servo's. Exactly the same with a fbl unit. Hence the comparison.
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