Raptor 30 V2 Goes Flybarless - Page 7

tr911 · 03-05-2012, 06:52 AM

The bearings came from RC Bearings so I suppose they are shielded.

Thanks

tr911 · 03-05-2012, 06:59 AM

Hey KC, You coming up for the Helicopter meet Flyin in McCalla this month? I think it is on the weekend of the 16th.

KC36330 · 03-05-2012, 07:59 AM

No, me event list is mostly jet related.

tr911 · 03-06-2012, 09:42 AM

Is there a spacer that goes on the OS 50sx for the fan hub? The crank shaft sure does seem long..

KC36330 · 03-06-2012, 10:21 AM

only a 1mm thick washer between the fan and the front brg.

tr911 · 03-06-2012, 11:19 AM

Good, I have the washer.

stretch1100 · 03-06-2012, 03:24 PM

Can anyone suggest setting for a raptor 30 with the copterx 3-axis gyro? Im about ready to do a test flight with the flybarless head.

tr911 · 03-06-2012, 03:35 PM

Stretch, do you have the programming box or are you using a radio? If radio what modle is it?

stretch1100 · 03-06-2012, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tr911

Stretch, do you have the programming box or are you using a radio? If radio what modle is it?

I have the box and the USB cable is on order. This is a suggestion someone just gave me on RCG:

I'd set the preset to number 4 and test fly. Both my 450 and 600 required total roll/pitch gain to be reduced from 40 to 25, and later I increased the swash PID I-gain from 80 to 95. I also increased the swash decel a bit for more poppin stops.

tr911 · 03-07-2012, 05:28 PM

How does that configuration work for you stretch?

cruzroy · 03-07-2012, 05:31 PM

i thought you could not free load start a nitro, without prop ???

tr911 · 03-07-2012, 05:33 PM

I LOVE MY AR7200BX... After I changed the Head Lock Gain as KC suggested and fine tuned the swash my Raptor comes off the ground straight up. Everything is right now. No wag, wobble, windage, willies, just straight smooth flight. This saturday is suppose to be clear and 70 degrees out side... It's about time, I'm gonna load up my helicopters and go to the field for a all day event.. WOO HOOO!!! (got to get another gal of fuel)

tr911 · 03-07-2012, 05:39 PM

I've only read that on forums Cruz, I have not read that anywhere on Thunder Tigers web site or OSs web site. As long as you dont over rev the engine I dont see any harm. I have worked on two cycle engines for a while and tested them with out a load and never had one to break a crank, or a ring or sling a rod If you DO over rev you stand a chance of slinging the rod or breaking it .. that would be a sad day... By the way I'm not saying do it .. use your own descrestion. By the way, again, a nitro engine will run backwards too...

KC36330 · 03-07-2012, 05:44 PM

all you need is enough weight to flywheel the engine to run it, it doesn't have to be loaded, but DO NOT over speed the RPM, and remove the clutch if you run it with the fan as your flywheel, you'll destroy the clutch and sling both shoes (usually right at yourself) when it spins up otherwise.

tr911 · 03-07-2012, 05:46 PM

Oh yeah, Thanks KC, if you notice the crank shaft is not bear. It does have the fan and an old clutch that I broke the weights off for my flywheel.

tr911 · 03-09-2012, 09:54 AM

I got the DS650 mounted on the tail and the DS620 on the throttle. I ordered parts to upgrade to a 50 they should all be here by Monday evening.

What is the difference between FBL and FB blades? Chord? Weight? etc..?

I have a set of Mavrikk 600mm Patriot's on the way.

Bob O · 03-09-2012, 10:23 AM

FBL blades are more neutrally balanced for better stability and less work for the servos and FBL system.

Here's a comparison I did of Mavrikk FBL and FB blades. You can see how the FBL blades are neutrally balanced compared to the FB set.

tr911 · 03-09-2012, 10:39 AM

Bob, to be honest with you I can't tell the difference from looking at your photo. I wouldn't have know which is which if they weren't marked..lol

Rahulgaba · 03-09-2012, 10:54 AM

Tr look at the blades hanging... The FBL ones hang perfectly parallel. And the fb ones are not.. Look at the far end of the two blades. I am not putting on FBL blades yet. Aint got the money. Heehee.

But here's my birds. They all went FBL too!! Yaay!!

tr911 · 03-09-2012, 11:12 AM

Oh... I get it. The balance is all the way around.. Hmmm I see.... cool..

03-05-2012, 06:52 AM	#121
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	The bearings came from RC Bearings so I suppose they are shielded. Thanks __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-05-2012, 06:59 AM	#122
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	Hey KC, You coming up for the Helicopter meet Flyin in McCalla this month? I think it is on the weekend of the 16th. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-05-2012, 07:59 AM	#123
KC36330 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Enterprise, AL	No, me event list is mostly jet related. __________________ JetCat USA Rep / KingTech Turbines Rep

03-06-2012, 09:42 AM	#124
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	Is there a spacer that goes on the OS 50sx for the fan hub? The crank shaft sure does seem long.. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-06-2012, 10:21 AM	#125
KC36330 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Enterprise, AL	only a 1mm thick washer between the fan and the front brg. __________________ JetCat USA Rep / KingTech Turbines Rep

03-06-2012, 11:19 AM	#126
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	Good, I have the washer. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-06-2012, 03:24 PM	#127
stretch1100 Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Elgin, IL	Can anyone suggest setting for a raptor 30 with the copterx 3-axis gyro? Im about ready to do a test flight with the flybarless head.

03-06-2012, 03:35 PM	#128
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	Stretch, do you have the programming box or are you using a radio? If radio what modle is it? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-07-2012, 05:28 PM	#130
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	How does that configuration work for you stretch? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-07-2012, 05:31 PM	#131
cruzroy Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: ma.	i thought you could not free load start a nitro, without prop ???

03-07-2012, 05:33 PM	#132
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	I LOVE MY AR7200BX... After I changed the Head Lock Gain as KC suggested and fine tuned the swash my Raptor comes off the ground straight up. Everything is right now. No wag, wobble, windage, willies, just straight smooth flight. This saturday is suppose to be clear and 70 degrees out side... It's about time, I'm gonna load up my helicopters and go to the field for a all day event.. WOO HOOO!!! (got to get another gal of fuel) __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-07-2012, 05:39 PM	#133
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	I've only read that on forums Cruz, I have not read that anywhere on Thunder Tigers web site or OSs web site. As long as you dont over rev the engine I dont see any harm. I have worked on two cycle engines for a while and tested them with out a load and never had one to break a crank, or a ring or sling a rod If you DO over rev you stand a chance of slinging the rod or breaking it .. that would be a sad day... By the way I'm not saying do it .. use your own descrestion. By the way, again, a nitro engine will run backwards too... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-07-2012, 05:44 PM	#134
KC36330 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Enterprise, AL	all you need is enough weight to flywheel the engine to run it, it doesn't have to be loaded, but DO NOT over speed the RPM, and remove the clutch if you run it with the fan as your flywheel, you'll destroy the clutch and sling both shoes (usually right at yourself) when it spins up otherwise. __________________ JetCat USA Rep / KingTech Turbines Rep

03-07-2012, 05:46 PM	#135
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	Oh yeah, Thanks KC, if you notice the crank shaft is not bear. It does have the fan and an old clutch that I broke the weights off for my flywheel. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-09-2012, 09:54 AM	#136
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	I got the DS650 mounted on the tail and the DS620 on the throttle. I ordered parts to upgrade to a 50 they should all be here by Monday evening. What is the difference between FBL and FB blades? Chord? Weight? etc..? I have a set of Mavrikk 600mm Patriot's on the way. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-09-2012, 10:23 AM	#137
Bob O HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Negaunee, Michigan	FBL blades are more neutrally balanced for better stability and less work for the servos and FBL system. Here's a comparison I did of Mavrikk FBL and FB blades. You can see how the FBL blades are neutrally balanced compared to the FB set. __________________ Warp 360 Spartan Vortex VX1

03-09-2012, 10:39 AM	#138
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	Bob, to be honest with you I can't tell the difference from looking at your photo. I wouldn't have know which is which if they weren't marked..lol __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

03-09-2012, 10:54 AM	#139
Rahulgaba Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US, Texas, Richardson	Tr look at the blades hanging... The FBL ones hang perfectly parallel. And the fb ones are not.. Look at the far end of the two blades. I am not putting on FBL blades yet. Aint got the money. Heehee. But here's my birds. They all went FBL too!! Yaay!! __________________ Whiplash 90E Scorpion HKIII 4035-560 and MSH Brain WARP 360 IKON VIBE 55 IKON Compass TRACX head JR X9503 Gaba To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-09-2012, 11:12 AM	#140
tr911 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leeds, Al.	Oh... I get it. The balance is all the way around.. Hmmm I see.... cool.. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Titan x50 FBL, R50 Titan SE FBL, R50 V2, R30 V2 , Trex500, T-Rex 450x2, mCPx X2,

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