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Old 11-29-2012, 02:11 PM   #1
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Hi Dave, do you mind sharing Kyle's vbar numbers on Logo 800 Extreme? Saw you just did it with logo 700.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:23 AM   #2
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No problem.

Main Rotor:
style - 70
agility - 100
gain - 108


Main Rotor Expert:
parameters:
dead band - 2
elev. pre-comp - 8
paddle sim. - 0
expo - 5%
optimizer:
50 / 50


Tail Rotor:
yaw rate - 120
gain - 80


Tail Rotor Expert (I'll just list the numbers vertically as they appear in the menu):
parameters:
5
65
80
55
25
10
expo - 10%
optimizer:
30/30
torque pre-comp:
35
0
0


Gov Gain: 30
Gov Expert (numbers listed vertically as they appear in the menu:
3
20
15
15


Set-up menu:
collective - 87 (not sure what that equates to as to the number of degrees +/- collective...about 12 I recall)
cyclic - 100
pitch pump - 15


Caution: you may or may not like the way the helis flies with these numbers. The beauty of V-Bar...adjust to your liking.

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Old 11-30-2012, 12:00 PM   #3
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Expo -10? Halleluja

Thank you for that information, Dave.....

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Old 11-30-2012, 01:55 PM   #4
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thank you so much, Dave. All of us can learn from those numbers and they will be really helpful! Those numbers are for 753mm blades, right?
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:57 PM   #5
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Expo -10? Halleluja

Thank you for that information, Dave.....

-Heimo
guess good fingers are needed when using just -10 expo on tail (50% default)
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:38 PM   #6
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@ snowman1638,

Kyle and 753mm blades on the XX 800...

Kyle competed with the 800 in 2011 with various blades. The XFC was with 813's, the 3D Masters and the "ONE" Competition at IRCHA was with 753's, and then post IRCHA, he reverted back to 813's. At the Rotor Live Show in Germany in March of 2012, he flew 813's.

The 753's were used to help "quicken-up" the heli, but as I said during the debate at the time between the two blades, the 753's raise the disc loading on the 800 pretty high, and you've got to learn to manage the flying of the heli to make the combo work for you. I'd dare say most would not like the way the 800 flies on 753's, as most guys are brought-up these days on helis (from all manufacturers), that are pretty lightly disc loaded as a general rule.

In the end, Kyle would tell you that due to the machine's size and weight, it is far more suited for (and has a better overall blend of performance), when flown on the 813's.

The numbers shown are Kyle's current set-up using 813's.

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Old 12-01-2012, 07:41 PM   #7
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I wonder how it will fly with the ~770mm blades that are coming out with the goblin770
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:19 PM   #8
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Expo -10? Halleluja

Thank you for that information, Dave.....

-Heimo
I dont read that as -10. If you look above and below it the - is used between other numbers that wouldnt be negative so I think Dave means 10% NOT -10%
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:44 PM   #9
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Correct (-:

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