A bunch of problems and solutions with the 700e

[Helos4me]

[Sladex]

Originally Posted by Helos4me

Mmh.. Popcorn.

[treotraveler]

Originally Posted by Sladex

Mmh.. Popcorn.

Yup, this is like a movie, I am going to start on some Ben and Jerry Peach Cobbler ice cream here, shortly....

[Helos4me]

Sladex, watch some of Finless Bobs build and set up videos. He does a pretty good job of explaining things.
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=41692
Watch them and your knowledge will grow faster and less painfully.

And even though you didn't fly with that repaired link, even turning it up on the ground things can go bad wrong in a heart beat. Whether you are in the air or not, once those blades are spinning, you are flying. Too much stick will roll it right into the ground.Or something else.

[Sladex]

Originally Posted by Helos4me

Sladex, watch some of Finless Bobs build and set up videos. He does a pretty good job of explaining things.
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=41692
Watch them and your knowledge will grow faster and less painfully.

And even though you didn't fly with that repaired link, even turning it up on the ground things can go bad wrong in a heart beat. Whether you are in the air or not, once those blades are spinning, you are flying. Too much stick will roll it right into the ground.Or something else.

Yep I watched em . Part is 20m away, should be here around noon

[K2Freak]

How much stick and sim time do you have in? How many other helis?

[Sladex]

Originally Posted by K2Freak

How much stick and sim time do you have in? How many other helis?

Atm 5 other helis and 2 planes. I have been flying for a year, and I fly about 5 Packs a day. Have about 2000 hours on the sim. I think.

[Sladex]

I've been busy lately and haven't flew for a week.


http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=478537

[Sladex]

MAIDEN IN 10 MINUTES. SO EXCITED!!!!!!

[ddj74]

So what time is the vigil ceremony?

[Sladex]

Originally Posted by ddj74

So what time is the vigil ceremony?

Its over. Unfortuantly didnt turn out well. I aborted. The helicopter wants to spin vigirously to the left. I tried trimming and everything. I didnt get it off the ground due to this reason. It didnt tip over or anything luckily. So its in tip top shape.

[DoctorJ]

Originally Posted by Sladex

Its over. Unfortuantly didnt turn out well. I aborted. The helicopter wants to spin vigirously to the left. I tried trimming and everything. I didnt get it off the ground due to this reason. It didnt tip over or anything luckily. So its in tip top shape.

So, do you understand why?

It has nothing to do with trim. There are a number of things at play here.

Rate vs head hold, servo direction and gyro direction.

Here is how you test.

Give right rudder and note the direction of the tail blade, then move the heli to the left, the tail blade should move in the same direction as when you gave right rudder.

There is other setting still that could be wrong even if this test passes,



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[Bonkievan]

Originally Posted by DoctorJ

So, do you understand why?

It has nothing to do with trim. There are a number of things at play here.

Rate vs head hold, servo direction and gyro direction.

Here is how you test.

Give right rudder and note the direction of the tail blade, then move the heli to the left, the tail blade should move in the same direction as when you gave right rudder.

There is other setting still that could be wrong even if this test passes,



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DoctorJ is right Sladex. Sounds to me like you've your gyro reversed.

[Sladex]

Originally Posted by DoctorJ

So, do you understand why?

It has nothing to do with trim. There are a number of things at play here.

Rate vs head hold, servo direction and gyro direction.

Here is how you test.

Give right rudder and note the direction of the tail blade, then move the heli to the left, the tail blade should move in the same direction as when you gave right rudder.

There is other setting still that could be wrong even if this test passes,



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I know it had nothing to do with trim. I tried it anyhow. I first thought i might have put a gear on backwards causing the tail to run slower. But i dont think that is the problem. Ill try your test now. When i tried it it acted like it should but i noticed something. When i let go of thr rudder control it doesnt center.

[Sladex]

I noticed somethign very strange. When my helicopter is on normal mode, bx not on setup mode or anything, it has a full left rudder input. But when i got to the bx and hit tail center, it goes center.

[DoctorJ]

Originally Posted by Sladex

I know it had nothing to do with trim. I tried it anyhow. I first thought i might have put a gear on backwards causing the tail to run slower. But i dont think that is the problem. Ill try your test now. When i tried it it acted like it should but i noticed something. When i let go of thr rudder control it doesnt center.

It's not suppose to center, once input is given it will continue to provide input till given trajectory is acquired or till other input is given.

Yes, in setup centering is acquired to help you setup.


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[treotraveler]

Originally Posted by Sladex

I noticed somethign very strange. When my helicopter is on normal mode, bx not on setup mode or anything, it has a full left rudder input. But when i got to the bx and hit tail center, it goes center.

That's because you have gyro heading hold set up in your tx.

On your dx8, rate mode is 0 to -100. In rate mode, the tail will return to center position when you let go of stick. In gyro heading hold mode, the numbers go from 0 to +100, HH mode, the tail will sit in the last position you left your tx stick...

[Sladex]

Originally Posted by DoctorJ

It's not suppose to center, once input is given it will continue to provide input till given trajectory is acquired or till other input is given.

Yes, in setup centering is acquired to help you setup.


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Fancy words.... Lol. So what can I do. It passed your test . And I have a lot of right trim in there to center the rudder, is that ok. Each side gets almost exactly the same amount of throw

[DoctorJ]

I sure hope your head setup doesn't have similar setup issues, it will go bad so fast.


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[Sladex]

Originally Posted by treotraveler

That's because you have gyro heading hold set up in your tx.

On your dx8, rate mode is 0 to -100. In rate mode, the tail will return to center position when you let go of stick. In gyro heading hold mode, the numbers go from 0 to +100, HH mode, the tail will sit in the last position you left your tx stick...

Should I turn it off from hh mode