FAQ, Before you purchase, Upgrades & Normal Issues - Summarized - Page 4

enzozr · 05-21-2009, 02:33 AM

THANKS FOR SHARING!!!

jointer · 06-01-2009, 02:34 PM

Fell free to add my results here:
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=135129&page=5
Great motor, running cool, stock ESC handle it without problems, 5 minutes flight, about 1900-2000mAh charged in sport flight.
See the log.

Dumb Thumbs · 06-01-2009, 04:07 PM

For belt drive you can't pin the boom into the block. You need to be able to slide the boom in & out to adjust tension on the belt there. I'd pin the tail case though if it's metal and isn't indexed some how.
The stock plastic case on my bird had an index pin, then I upgraded to an alum tail case that had no index pin. Cut to the chase... Hit the tail blades landing hard once with the alum case not pinned and the tail case twisted 1/4 turn clockwise tearing up the rudder servo gears

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theLane · 06-16-2009, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregor

BECs
The RCE-BL60G (stock Align ESC) includes a 3a (5a burst) switching BEC. When using an ESC with linear BEC, or a ESC that doesn't have BEC, an outboard BEC is required for 6s systems. Adding an outboad BEC can reduce the ESC's operating tempature as well as reduce the potential for brownouts.

Sooo... as a new guy to electric helis (sort of), is it fine to use the stock setup or is a separate/additional BEC advisable on a 6S system?

Boddan · 06-16-2009, 03:25 PM

Original setup is perfectly fine, it will take you a long way. If you get tired of it just get a new engine and ESC. But the T-rex 500 is 3d capable as stock.

theLane · 06-16-2009, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boddan

Original setup is perfectly fine, it will take you a long way. If you get tired of it just get a new engine and ESC. But the T-rex 500 is 3d capable as stock.

I don't do 3D, not interested. Was just wondering if there was some issue and a seperate bec was required.

Boddan · 06-16-2009, 03:49 PM

No separate bec required

SmokeDT · 06-17-2009, 01:15 AM

Hi everyone,

I would like to ask if anyone have experience with the carbon tail boom?
The stock alu boom always bend or break when hard landing or crashing. So I'm really thinking about upgrading it to carbon one.
Is the carbon boom worth for it? I can buy almost 6 alu booms on a price of a carbon one.

thanks
s

Boddan · 06-17-2009, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeDT

Hi everyone,

I would like to ask if anyone have experience with the carbon tail boom?
The stock alu boom always bend or break when hard landing or crashing. So I'm really thinking about upgrading it to carbon one.
Is the carbon boom worth for it? I can buy almost 6 alu booms on a price of a carbon one.

thanks
s

Not speaking from personal experience but I heard the carbon boom is not worth it. It has been known to eject due to it does not grip to the tailcaising as well as the metal boom. If you have belt drive it will tighten and if you have TT it can eject.

Also, if you do a hard stop I think I read it can actually break...

But this is only what I think I've read, not confirmed in any way. Just do your research prior to purchase (just as you are now

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WillJames · 06-17-2009, 02:48 AM

In my last crash the carbon boom snapped at the front boom blocks. I only had a metal one to replace it with and both seem to work well, but the carbon is just going to cost more when you crash. It might survive minimal impacts, but my crash was pretty hard.

SmokeDT · 06-17-2009, 09:52 AM

Thanks for the reply!
I stay with the Alu boom then. Maybe later I'll buy a carbon one too, just to test how it performs.

badr_sv · 07-03-2009, 05:23 PM

Hi

I'am knew to this wonderful hobby >>

I bought the TREX 500 I supposed that I build it right . but since that I didn't fly it..

It just go spinning to the right .. any one dose know way is that happening to me ...

Thank's you all ..

Dumb Thumbs · 07-03-2009, 08:06 PM

You just need to change direction of the gyro. If it's a 401 gyro or something like it just flip the DR switch.

dunkonu23 · 07-05-2009, 08:03 AM

I've just ordered a 500esp and I figure I'll need to have some spares on hand, but I'm confused. I downloaded the 500 esp manual and part numbers generally don't match what I can find online. For example:

The 500esp calls the feathering shaft: 500H011. While online sites list the feathering shaft as: H50023. Are these the same part? Same thing goes for the flybar, main shaft, paddles, etc.

Forgive me if this has been asked elsewhere.

Scott

badr_sv · 07-05-2009, 04:13 PM

Thanks I will try it but I think its from the blade cuz when I put around 50% thrust it just go spinning

jynxxxy · 07-21-2009, 03:46 PM

hey guys someone asked about the pinned boom issue the finnless bob 5oo build shows and talks about the way to pinn the boom correct. i need a head and a metal tail block i am building my 500 gf in peices i get a part about every paycheck unless bills eat it up, where is the cheapest place to get the head the whole main head unit at/ thanks.
i need t ebay half of the 450 stuff i got laying around and then use the money to get the stuff for my 500, i cant wait to fly it!!!!!!!

rickbones4 · 09-18-2009, 06:01 PM

Xheli.com sells one for the exi 500. But I think your going to end up spending more buying piece by piece in the end with all the shipping charges. the same site also sells the exi 500 plastic kit for $77, only a few parts are plastic like the tail and some of the frame but for that price I bought two so when I crash ill have parts. Im new to helicopters

jonp · 10-12-2009, 08:41 AM

Hi, how about adding the Hitec HS-225BB and HS-225MG servos for the cyclic?

Very good performance and only $20 for the BB version. I am using these and they are strong and fast.

Also, for your radio selection how about Airtronics? Top radios - low price. I have two RDS8000 systems and the quality is first class. I know that they are not as popular as the heavily advertized radios but their performance and customer support is fantastic. You can buy a RDS8000 (2.4gHz, 8ch) with battery and 8ch reciever for about $150.

And lastly....Turnigy seem to have the lowest price 6s batteries at $35 for the 20C. I find the 20C to be more than up to the job - I have a Zippy 25C to compare with and really can't tell any difference.

So, to conclude.....I got a deal on a 500CF at $300, spent $60 for the Hitec servos and $150 for a TOP radio with reciever and $35 for batteries!

......In truth, I have now upgraded my CF to ESP spec......but just for something to do!

tppjr · 10-16-2009, 06:03 PM

Man, a great post!! There hasn't been any mention that I saw about the Align servos that come in the ESP kit. Are they worthwhile or should they be changed out?

Thanks,

Thomas

Robertwav1 · 10-24-2009, 12:29 PM

I'm still building the esp but was told from the LHS that the swash servos are fine. The tail servo is important as it has to be fast for good tail control with minimum lag from the radio signal. The kit does not have the tail servo.

06-01-2009, 02:34 PM	#62
jointer Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Prague, Czech Republic	Fell free to add my results here: http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=135129&page=5 Great motor, running cool, stock ESC handle it without problems, 5 minutes flight, about 1900-2000mAh charged in sport flight. See the log. __________________ - TDR #2, 4525LE, YGE 160HV, MKS HBL950 (JR MP82S=crap), Outrage BL9188, Gryphon Quasar, silver Vbar + 2x sat, 12S Billowy 50C 5200mAh, Radix V2, EDGE 105mm, DX7 - TDR #1 sold (standart setup, 700+ flights) - HPI e-Firestorm FLUX, Spektrum DX3S

06-01-2009, 04:07 PM	#63
Dumb Thumbs Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US-Central NJ	For belt drive you can't pin the boom into the block. You need to be able to slide the boom in & out to adjust tension on the belt there. I'd pin the tail case though if it's metal and isn't indexed some how. The stock plastic case on my bird had an index pin, then I upgraded to an alum tail case that had no index pin. Cut to the chase... Hit the tail blades landing hard once with the alum case not pinned and the tail case twisted 1/4 turn clockwise tearing up the rudder servo gears.

06-16-2009, 03:25 PM	#65
Boddan Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kungsbacka, Sweden	Original setup is perfectly fine, it will take you a long way. If you get tired of it just get a new engine and ESC. But the T-rex 500 is 3d capable as stock. __________________ Boddan "If at first you don't succeed - Try again and again and again..." Belt CP (CRASHED): TP SG-90's, control arm mod, T-Rex 450 main shaft, EK1-0704a T-Rex 500 CF: 5245 on cyclic, JR G770 3D gyro w. 3500G, DX7

06-16-2009, 03:49 PM	#67
Boddan Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kungsbacka, Sweden	No separate bec required __________________ Boddan "If at first you don't succeed - Try again and again and again..." Belt CP (CRASHED): TP SG-90's, control arm mod, T-Rex 450 main shaft, EK1-0704a T-Rex 500 CF: 5245 on cyclic, JR G770 3D gyro w. 3500G, DX7

06-17-2009, 02:48 AM	#70
WillJames HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Western, NC	In my last crash the carbon boom snapped at the front boom blocks. I only had a metal one to replace it with and both seem to work well, but the carbon is just going to cost more when you crash. It might survive minimal impacts, but my crash was pretty hard. __________________ William James To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. If you fly you are going to crash. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-21-2009, 02:33 AM	#61
enzozr Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: CHINA	THANKS FOR SHARING!!!

06-17-2009, 01:15 AM	#68
SmokeDT Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary	Hi everyone, I would like to ask if anyone have experience with the carbon tail boom? The stock alu boom always bend or break when hard landing or crashing. So I'm really thinking about upgrading it to carbon one. Is the carbon boom worth for it? I can buy almost 6 alu booms on a price of a carbon one. thanks s

06-17-2009, 09:52 AM	#71
SmokeDT Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary	Thanks for the reply! I stay with the Alu boom then. Maybe later I'll buy a carbon one too, just to test how it performs.

07-03-2009, 05:23 PM	#72
badr_sv Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Saudi Arabia	Wish to know Hi I'am knew to this wonderful hobby >> I bought the TREX 500 I supposed that I build it right . but since that I didn't fly it.. It just go spinning to the right .. any one dose know way is that happening to me ... Thank's you all ..

07-03-2009, 08:06 PM	#73
Dumb Thumbs Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US-Central NJ	You just need to change direction of the gyro. If it's a 401 gyro or something like it just flip the DR switch.

07-05-2009, 08:03 AM	#74
dunkonu23 Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Michigan, East of Hell	Parts: 500 ESP vs 500 GF and 500 CF I've just ordered a 500esp and I figure I'll need to have some spares on hand, but I'm confused. I downloaded the 500 esp manual and part numbers generally don't match what I can find online. For example: The 500esp calls the feathering shaft: 500H011. While online sites list the feathering shaft as: H50023. Are these the same part? Same thing goes for the flybar, main shaft, paddles, etc. Forgive me if this has been asked elsewhere. Scott

07-05-2009, 04:13 PM	#75
badr_sv Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Saudi Arabia	Thanks I will try it but I think its from the blade cuz when I put around 50% thrust it just go spinning

07-21-2009, 03:46 PM	#76
jynxxxy Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: colonial beach ,va	pinnedboom hey guys someone asked about the pinned boom issue the finnless bob 5oo build shows and talks about the way to pinn the boom correct. i need a head and a metal tail block i am building my 500 gf in peices i get a part about every paycheck unless bills eat it up, where is the cheapest place to get the head the whole main head unit at/ thanks. i need t ebay half of the 450 stuff i got laying around and then use the money to get the stuff for my 500, i cant wait to fly it!!!!!!!

09-18-2009, 06:01 PM	#77
rickbones4 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: AZ	Xheli.com sells one for the exi 500. But I think your going to end up spending more buying piece by piece in the end with all the shipping charges. the same site also sells the exi 500 plastic kit for $77, only a few parts are plastic like the tail and some of the frame but for that price I bought two so when I crash ill have parts. Im new to helicopters

10-12-2009, 08:41 AM	#78
jonp Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: On the run..........	Hi, how about adding the Hitec HS-225BB and HS-225MG servos for the cyclic? Very good performance and only $20 for the BB version. I am using these and they are strong and fast. Also, for your radio selection how about Airtronics? Top radios - low price. I have two RDS8000 systems and the quality is first class. I know that they are not as popular as the heavily advertized radios but their performance and customer support is fantastic. You can buy a RDS8000 (2.4gHz, 8ch) with battery and 8ch reciever for about $150. And lastly....Turnigy seem to have the lowest price 6s batteries at $35 for the 20C. I find the 20C to be more than up to the job - I have a Zippy 25C to compare with and really can't tell any difference. So, to conclude.....I got a deal on a 500CF at $300, spent $60 for the Hitec servos and $150 for a TOP radio with reciever and $35 for batteries! ......In truth, I have now upgraded my CF to ESP spec......but just for something to do! __________________ T-Rex 550E V2 / DS-610 / GY401 / 620 / CC ICE 100 T-Rex 600 ESP / DS-610 / GY401 / 9254 / CC ICE 100 T-Rex 700E F3C / DS-610 / GY520 / 650 /CC ICE 2 HV 120

10-16-2009, 06:03 PM	#79
tppjr Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rochester, WA	Man, a great post!! There hasn't been any mention that I saw about the Align servos that come in the ESP kit. Are they worthwhile or should they be changed out? Thanks, Thomas __________________ Wife calls it the T-Wrecks for obvious reasons......

10-24-2009, 12:29 PM	#80
Robertwav1 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	I'm still building the esp but was told from the LHS that the swash servos are fine. The tail servo is important as it has to be fast for good tail control with minimum lag from the radio signal. The kit does not have the tail servo.

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