Video progress report! - Page 52

jperkosk · 06-29-2012, 03:11 PM

Poor thing, looks like it's been savaged in mid air by a vicious hawk !!!

jperkosk · 07-03-2012, 07:34 PM

After quite a few months of owning mCPx I took it out for the first real outdoor flight. The bird had been unlucky, I tried to fly it in the hotel room after I got it and broke the swashplate within 2 minutes of hovering, then I waited for a replacement part over 2 months, then the collective range was all wrong and so on...

So finally I got it setup right last Sunday and took it to the factory today to fly during a lunch break. It feels like Blade SR in the air, controllable and flyable in some wind, but way underpowered. Tried to do aileron flip a couple of times (very end of the clip), but no luck, at the moment of applying negative pitch the tail blows out and there is nothing to do but TH, since I can't control any inverted orientations. The good thing about mCPx is that it's indestructible over the grass if you hit TH in time

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sutty · 07-03-2012, 08:31 PM

Looked good Jerry.

From a quick watch it looked as though you nearly got all the way over. Next time start a bit higher and initially use little to no collective, just sort of park it at mid stick. Sure you'll lose height, but if you have plenty of height it will be fine and you will learn how much it loses. After a few you will probably find that you can tease in enough collective to stop it losing significant amounts of height and maybe even stop it all together, even whilst the tail manages to hold. Dunno, never flown one, but I can in Phoenix, lol. I gave it a go for the first time after you mentioned it the other day. Seemed okay to me. Managed most of the moves that I can do on all my other helis, even piro flips. Granted they were poor, but I could do them. Suppose that only goes to show that it is a poor simulation, as I've no doubt that on a RL version I wouldn't be able to do them.

Cheers

Sutty

Cheers

Sutty

jperkosk · 07-03-2012, 08:51 PM

Thanks for the tip, Andy, will keep on trying.

I'll check Phoenix again, but this is a first case where I find a bird 3 times easier to fly in RL than on the sim

What version of Phoenix are you using, maybe they have screwed up something in the last update? Mine's all latest 4.0.k.

sutty · 07-03-2012, 09:04 PM

yep, that's it, latest one. Just flew it stock. Tail was clearly too good a hold.

Off to bed now. 3 am zzzzzzzzzz

jperkosk · 07-03-2012, 09:13 PM

Never mind, just found I had a decent random wind dialed into Phoenix, took it out and now mCPx flies very realistically. The tail doesn't blow out on the sim, but you can also mini-auto-rotate to ground, which in RL isn't possible with motorized tails.

Maybe my main gear is pushed-on too tight, will check this before next flight. In the meantime, good night everyone.

jperkosk · 07-04-2012, 03:19 AM

This was a second attempt yesterday to flip the mCPx over with identical results; about 60% of the flip the tail blows out and I hit the TH. Damage: the lower main shaft bearing and the main gear needed to be pushed back in all the way

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sutty · 07-04-2012, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jperkosk

Never mind, just found I had a decent random wind dialed into Phoenix, took it out and now mCPx flies very realistically. The tail doesn't blow out on the sim, but you can also mini-auto-rotate to ground, which in RL isn't possible with motorized tails.

Maybe my main gear is pushed-on too tight, will check this before next flight. In the meantime, good night everyone.

Ah, that would do it. Damned realism settings! Glad you got it sussed. Pity you still couldn't get it over, but I haven't watched yet so I'll take a look soon. Glad there wasn't really any damage as such.

Cheers

Sutty

Grant_beltcp · 07-05-2012, 10:35 AM

Just took a quick look at your final video,t looks like your doing the right thing b the tail kicking out on the MCPx is too much pitch and it can't cope. Its not easy with a stock version!

You need to be really gently feeding in the pitch, and almost hold it inverted for slightly longer for it to recover. All in though it looks like your doing the right thing. try take it higher up,, and alot less pitch when going inverted.

jperkosk · 07-05-2012, 01:42 PM

Yessir !!!
Will implement and report the results

Hopefully this week, they don't give me much opportunity to fly on this job

On the bright side winter here in Brazil seems to be much nicer than middle of summer in good ole GB

Grant_beltcp · 07-05-2012, 02:21 PM

Going by your video I would think that you could do it easily on a Heli that's easier to fly!

jperkosk · 07-05-2012, 02:41 PM

Probably

, if it weren't for the brown underwear factor. With mCPx over the grass I hit TH and at most have to push the main gear back on

.

With T600N on Phoenix I have 85-90% success ratio.

Will keep on trying with mCPx in RL and then on a 450 when FMA finally releases the HD module for CP2, should be in a couple of months.

Tomstoy2 · 07-05-2012, 06:19 PM

Went to my buddy's place for the 4th. Haven't flown the Hexa out there yet and he was excited to get some shots of his property.
Wasn't the best of conditions, windy as hell and the air full of smoke from 3 big fires all close to us.

YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ZiVBuYDqwBY

YouTube

sutty · 07-05-2012, 07:15 PM

Loved them all. Aren't you good at pointing your camera when you can't see what you are doing. I can't do that well with my hat cam and I only have to fix it in one spot. You followed a bunch of things and had them centered right up.

Cheers

Sutty

jperkosk · 07-05-2012, 09:25 PM

Tom, it's amazing

How the heck do you know how to tilt the camera ??? There were moments I was swearing you were flying under the goggles (like when following the flock of birds), but then it's clear from some shots that you weren't, and definitely not when flying through the barn !!! So how did you do it ?

Tomstoy2 · 07-06-2012, 03:01 AM

Thanks guys!

I find that kind of funny as there were a few times I thought I was nuts. Not flying thru the barn, though. That was a lot of fun, actually.
Taking off inside the door of the barn, just a few feet away from that metal pole fence was one moment.
I couldn't believe the amount of dust and hay particles I kicked up! I was afraid one of my motors would ingest something, or I would cover the lens with crap. Took an air compressor to it when I was all done.

As far as tracking things, indeed I do that all by eye, just reading the angles. Some of those, like some of the bird tracking shot were done with the Hexa rather far out and getting hard to see.
The more I do it, the better I get at it.
Now if I can just get the damn gimbal stabilized,,,

His donkeys were a lot of fun.
There I am just buzzing around and all of a sudden I feel a light touch and then a breath on my left elbow,,,, never saw or heard them walk up on me. Gave me a start there for a second or two.

I think my buddy will be pleased with the vids. He was totally blown away by the precision of the whole damn thing.

I got a whole list of places I want to fly at. This sky though, it's so full of smoke.

ragge1 · 07-06-2012, 09:48 AM

really amazing Tom , enjoyed them all

Tomstoy2 · 07-15-2012, 11:04 PM

So, I migrated my fpv gear back over to the Hexa today, but haven't tested it out yet.

Sun was setting, just a breeze for wind, decided to try and catch a sunset, I get so few chances.
All is good, and then I loose power!

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sutty · 07-16-2012, 04:09 AM

Why so short on the battery Tom. Everything okay? Didn't seem to come in too hard, and just missed the fence, so well done there.

Cheers

Sutty

jperkosk · 07-16-2012, 06:12 AM

+1. Have you managed to avoid any damage?

06-29-2012, 03:11 PM	#1021
jperkosk Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Luis Potosí, México	Poor thing, looks like it's been savaged in mid air by a vicious hawk !!! __________________ Jerry Trex 700N Pro fbl, 600N Pro x 2, 450SE v1, 250 v2 fbl, Compass 6HV fbl, Blade 450x, 400, 300x, 130x, mCPx, 120SR, mQx, mSR, Rotor Concepts HPQ1, Walkera CB180Q, CB100, Novus FP, CP, Esky Hunter, Big Lama.

07-03-2012, 08:31 PM	#1023
sutty Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Manchester, England	Looked good Jerry. From a quick watch it looked as though you nearly got all the way over. Next time start a bit higher and initially use little to no collective, just sort of park it at mid stick. Sure you'll lose height, but if you have plenty of height it will be fine and you will learn how much it loses. After a few you will probably find that you can tease in enough collective to stop it losing significant amounts of height and maybe even stop it all together, even whilst the tail manages to hold. Dunno, never flown one, but I can in Phoenix, lol. I gave it a go for the first time after you mentioned it the other day. Seemed okay to me. Managed most of the moves that I can do on all my other helis, even piro flips. Granted they were poor, but I could do them. Suppose that only goes to show that it is a poor simulation, as I've no doubt that on a RL version I wouldn't be able to do them. Cheers Sutty Cheers Sutty __________________ Regards, Sutty BeltEXI, mCX, mSR, 4G3, FBL Trex250SE µB, FBL Trex450Pro µB, FBL Trex550e VX1, FBL Trex600ESP µB, Parkzone P51D

07-03-2012, 08:51 PM	#1024
jperkosk Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Luis Potosí, México	Thanks for the tip, Andy, will keep on trying. I'll check Phoenix again, but this is a first case where I find a bird 3 times easier to fly in RL than on the sim What version of Phoenix are you using, maybe they have screwed up something in the last update? Mine's all latest 4.0.k. __________________ Jerry Trex 700N Pro fbl, 600N Pro x 2, 450SE v1, 250 v2 fbl, Compass 6HV fbl, Blade 450x, 400, 300x, 130x, mCPx, 120SR, mQx, mSR, Rotor Concepts HPQ1, Walkera CB180Q, CB100, Novus FP, CP, Esky Hunter, Big Lama.

07-03-2012, 09:04 PM	#1025
sutty Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Manchester, England	yep, that's it, latest one. Just flew it stock. Tail was clearly too good a hold. Off to bed now. 3 am zzzzzzzzzz __________________ Regards, Sutty BeltEXI, mCX, mSR, 4G3, FBL Trex250SE µB, FBL Trex450Pro µB, FBL Trex550e VX1, FBL Trex600ESP µB, Parkzone P51D

07-03-2012, 09:13 PM	#1026
jperkosk Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Luis Potosí, México	Never mind, just found I had a decent random wind dialed into Phoenix, took it out and now mCPx flies very realistically. The tail doesn't blow out on the sim, but you can also mini-auto-rotate to ground, which in RL isn't possible with motorized tails. Maybe my main gear is pushed-on too tight, will check this before next flight. In the meantime, good night everyone. __________________ Jerry Trex 700N Pro fbl, 600N Pro x 2, 450SE v1, 250 v2 fbl, Compass 6HV fbl, Blade 450x, 400, 300x, 130x, mCPx, 120SR, mQx, mSR, Rotor Concepts HPQ1, Walkera CB180Q, CB100, Novus FP, CP, Esky Hunter, Big Lama.

07-05-2012, 10:35 AM	#1029
Grant_beltcp Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Aldridge (nr birmingham)	Just took a quick look at your final video,t looks like your doing the right thing b the tail kicking out on the MCPx is too much pitch and it can't cope. Its not easy with a stock version! You need to be really gently feeding in the pitch, and almost hold it inverted for slightly longer for it to recover. All in though it looks like your doing the right thing. try take it higher up,, and alot less pitch when going inverted. __________________ Sponsored by - Team Align UK- CSM - MKS Servo's UK - Kontronik Drives T-rex 700E v2 - 700E DFC

07-05-2012, 01:42 PM	#1030
jperkosk Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Luis Potosí, México	Yessir !!! Will implement and report the results Hopefully this week, they don't give me much opportunity to fly on this job On the bright side winter here in Brazil seems to be much nicer than middle of summer in good ole GB __________________ Jerry Trex 700N Pro fbl, 600N Pro x 2, 450SE v1, 250 v2 fbl, Compass 6HV fbl, Blade 450x, 400, 300x, 130x, mCPx, 120SR, mQx, mSR, Rotor Concepts HPQ1, Walkera CB180Q, CB100, Novus FP, CP, Esky Hunter, Big Lama.

07-05-2012, 02:21 PM	#1031
Grant_beltcp Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Aldridge (nr birmingham)	Going by your video I would think that you could do it easily on a Heli that's easier to fly! __________________ Sponsored by - Team Align UK- CSM - MKS Servo's UK - Kontronik Drives T-rex 700E v2 - 700E DFC

07-05-2012, 02:41 PM	#1032
jperkosk Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Luis Potosí, México	Probably , if it weren't for the brown underwear factor. With mCPx over the grass I hit TH and at most have to push the main gear back on . With T600N on Phoenix I have 85-90% success ratio. Will keep on trying with mCPx in RL and then on a 450 when FMA finally releases the HD module for CP2, should be in a couple of months. __________________ Jerry Trex 700N Pro fbl, 600N Pro x 2, 450SE v1, 250 v2 fbl, Compass 6HV fbl, Blade 450x, 400, 300x, 130x, mCPx, 120SR, mQx, mSR, Rotor Concepts HPQ1, Walkera CB180Q, CB100, Novus FP, CP, Esky Hunter, Big Lama.

07-05-2012, 07:15 PM	#1034
sutty Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Manchester, England	Loved them all. Aren't you good at pointing your camera when you can't see what you are doing. I can't do that well with my hat cam and I only have to fix it in one spot. You followed a bunch of things and had them centered right up. Cheers Sutty __________________ Regards, Sutty BeltEXI, mCX, mSR, 4G3, FBL Trex250SE µB, FBL Trex450Pro µB, FBL Trex550e VX1, FBL Trex600ESP µB, Parkzone P51D

07-05-2012, 09:25 PM	#1035
jperkosk Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Luis Potosí, México	Tom, it's amazing How the heck do you know how to tilt the camera ??? There were moments I was swearing you were flying under the goggles (like when following the flock of birds), but then it's clear from some shots that you weren't, and definitely not when flying through the barn !!! So how did you do it ? __________________ Jerry Trex 700N Pro fbl, 600N Pro x 2, 450SE v1, 250 v2 fbl, Compass 6HV fbl, Blade 450x, 400, 300x, 130x, mCPx, 120SR, mQx, mSR, Rotor Concepts HPQ1, Walkera CB180Q, CB100, Novus FP, CP, Esky Hunter, Big Lama.

07-06-2012, 03:01 AM	#1036
Tomstoy2 Registered Users Join Date: May 2010 Location: Erie,Colorado	Thanks guys! I find that kind of funny as there were a few times I thought I was nuts. Not flying thru the barn, though. That was a lot of fun, actually. Taking off inside the door of the barn, just a few feet away from that metal pole fence was one moment. I couldn't believe the amount of dust and hay particles I kicked up! I was afraid one of my motors would ingest something, or I would cover the lens with crap. Took an air compressor to it when I was all done. As far as tracking things, indeed I do that all by eye, just reading the angles. Some of those, like some of the bird tracking shot were done with the Hexa rather far out and getting hard to see. The more I do it, the better I get at it. Now if I can just get the damn gimbal stabilized,,, His donkeys were a lot of fun. There I am just buzzing around and all of a sudden I feel a light touch and then a breath on my left elbow,,,, never saw or heard them walk up on me. Gave me a start there for a second or two. I think my buddy will be pleased with the vids. He was totally blown away by the precision of the whole damn thing. I got a whole list of places I want to fly at. This sky though, it's so full of smoke. __________________ Avant Aurora 90n,Trex 600E Pro, HC500, HDX450sev4, Trex 250se, mCP-X & mSR, Mosquito, X/A Hexa/WKM/FPV, 450 Flame Wheel,Gaui 330X

07-06-2012, 09:48 AM	#1037
ragge1 Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Norway , from Sweden	really amazing Tom , enjoyed them all __________________ Trex 500 : Atom FBL head AR7200BX \| Atom 6HV : vbar 5,3 pro \| Goblin 700 : vbar 5,3 pro \| Goblin 500 : vbar 5,3 pro

07-16-2012, 04:09 AM	#1039
sutty Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Manchester, England	Why so short on the battery Tom. Everything okay? Didn't seem to come in too hard, and just missed the fence, so well done there. Cheers Sutty __________________ Regards, Sutty BeltEXI, mCX, mSR, 4G3, FBL Trex250SE µB, FBL Trex450Pro µB, FBL Trex550e VX1, FBL Trex600ESP µB, Parkzone P51D

07-16-2012, 06:12 AM	#1040
jperkosk Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Luis Potosí, México	+1. Have you managed to avoid any damage? __________________ Jerry Trex 700N Pro fbl, 600N Pro x 2, 450SE v1, 250 v2 fbl, Compass 6HV fbl, Blade 450x, 400, 300x, 130x, mCPx, 120SR, mQx, mSR, Rotor Concepts HPQ1, Walkera CB180Q, CB100, Novus FP, CP, Esky Hunter, Big Lama.

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